led the nra. >> wayne lapierre is the nra. he built the nra into what it is today. >> narrator: in the 1970s, he started as a lobbyist. >> if you're a political junkie like wayne or like myself, it was a wonderful job. you're working with all these people and having these fights. and you're cutting your teeth. >> narrator: but lapierre was no one's idea of a glad-handing lobbyist. >> he was a very quiet man. i was amazed he was a lobbyist because he d not have the hail-fellow-well-met attitude or personality that i associated with politicians or with lobbyists. >> narrator: and surprisingly for the nra, he was not a gun enthusiast, more comfortable on k street than in a duck blind. >> the safest place you could be with wayne and a gun back then was in a different state, because he really did not know anything about guns. politics, yes; guns, no. >> narrator: and inside the fractious politics of the nra, lapierre was skillful navigating between the sportsmen and the gun rights activists. >> wayne could put a finger to the wind

the national rifle association and its executive vice president, specifically its public face, wayne lapierre. last week the daily news ran a cover "the nra's sick jihad." this week they mock him as "jihadi wayne" complete with a photo shopped image of wayne as a terrorist. it's assailing nra over its opposition to a bill from democratic senator dianne feinstein and republican congressman peter king designed to prevent people on the government's terror watch list from purchasing guns. from 2004 to 2014 as the "washington post" reported, over 2,000 people on that list who the fbi suspects have some connection to terrorism were able to legally purchase guns in the u.s. think about it. even though the government views the people on its watch list as possible terrorists or related to terrorism it does not prevent them from legally buying firearms. among those on that list were the kouachi brothers, men allegedly responsible for the attack on french satirical magazine "charlie hebdo." also on the list tamerlan tsarnaev, one of the two brothers behind the boston marathon bombing. >> the same nefari

chief of the "new york daily news," which is waging a kind of crusade on this, today they labeled wayne lapierreyne. let me make the argument that the nra makes and a lot of civil libertarians say, that this list is a nonsense constitutional disaster. there's a huge amount of people on it and we're not going to tell these people they can't enjoy other constitutionally protected rights like you can't worship at the place you want to worship or speak or vote. so why should we take their guns away? >> 100% legitimate argument if it were coming from anyone other than the nra. it's convenient for the nra to jump onto that as a defense of what is seemingly otherwise a ridiculous stance. 2,000 terror suspects, right? have allegedly purchased weapons over the past roughly ten years. if only 2% of those or so, let's say 1%, were actually legitimate terrorists and they had the intent to carry out an act like we saw in paris, well, you're talking about 20 or so people, and that's more than enough. the nra has roughly 5 million members, which again comes out to about 2% of our entire country's population. i

the headline is, nowhere to heed, jihadi wayne, talking about wayne lapierre, the guy who runs the nra is legal in this country for people on terror watch lists to buy guns. >> the democrats are passing legislation. they said federal law enforcement are already alerted when people try to purchase a gun. the inform does not want people to have fun with fire a.m.s. those wrongly on the list are afforded their constitutional rights to due process. >> it reveals an agaendaagenda. everything going on in our country someone drilling down on the nra because they do not focus or they think it's a problem when you -- >> no one wants a terrorist so have a gun. >> haven't it rahm immanuel said, don't let us good police is trying to come up with good information is oftentimes, to your point, elizabeth, about how innocent people end up on fed fror watch list, waiz, bin clinton, once you're it seems hard to get off. >> we see how well gun laws fit in other countries. if you knows can to protect us from trop jews. >>> they judge all gun owners because of a few radical users. interesting twist sl. >>