in a statement, nra's ceo wayne lapierre wrote "this lawsuits comes with a message to those who attack the nra. we will never stop fighting for our law-abiding members and their constitutional freedoms." its members also took to twitter. >> the bad guys don't listen to the laws, so stop putting the band-aid on it, stop trying to ban everything. >> reporter: supervisor catherine stephanie who introduced the resolution stood by her claims. "the nra is a terrorist

. >> not if wayne lapierre keeps having conversations with him.e trump says he is for common sense gun legislation, he says this after every mass shooting, all that happens afterwards is wayne lapierre will pull him aside, have a conversation and remind him of the $30 million the nra spent on getting him elected and trump immediately changes course. i mean, the nra twitter account brags about it. they had a pinned tweet from wayne lapierre talking about their conversation. so, look, trump is easily corruptible. he might have the right instincts after a mass shooting but at the end of the day money talks and influence and that's why we don't get the regulation. >> ana cass pairian says it's not going to happen. do you think universal background checks will pass? >> i think red flag laws and that's a whole different can of worms. that worries me. i fear we're talking about local governments having far too much power to take away constitutional rights from individuals. but expanded background checks, yes, i believe it's going to happen. but i would c

. >>> president trump meets with nra chief wayne lapierre as lawmakers push for new legislation on gunaws. the pushback the organization is giving. >>> those stories and another check on your forecast when we come back. >>> welcome back, the search is on across several states after authorities in ohio say that four inmates escaped a county jail there. nbc news's kathy park has more on how officials say the men were able to get out of that facility. >> four prisoners escaped assaulting a constructional officer, will be in a charcoal gray dodge charger. >> reporter: the search intensifying across ohio, pennsylvania, and west virginia to find these four men. the sheriff said they escaped the jail in southern ohio just after midnight by overpowering two female corrections officers using a homemade weapon or shank. the inmates stole a jail vehicle and drove to a getaway car, eventually found more than four hours away in pennsylvania. >> our detectives have established that the inmates had the assistance in escaping from at least one individual on the outside. >> reporter: the decades old 22

wayne lapierre spoke about how the gun support group would support president trump.that president trump stop the legislative games when it comes to gun control. as cnn has reported, president trump has been flirting with the idea of supporting background checks after those two back-to-back shootings in august. of course, the white house hasn't taken any action yet on any gun legislation. now, the nra is disputing that any exchange was discussed between lapierre and trump, a spokesman for the group saying the nra categorically denies any discussion about arrangements in support of the president and vice versa. but some are speak out against it. the president of a gun control group says their actions in what appears to be an unlawful payback for defending president trump's defense as he faces people shows a level of corruptness in democracy. this is literally taking americans' lives. president trump seemingly backed away from supporting any kind of sweeping background legislation, but white house officials, victor and christi, say they're still looking at taking some k

when you know wayne lapierre will be saying, we do not support this when you know wayne lapierre will be calling the president and saying we do not support this, nor does your base support this. which is the key word as he well knows for the president of the united states to change his mind on something. >> that's very true, but we have seen the nra's influence especially their funding go down in comparison to gun safety groups. so that's another big thing. they were actually outspent by gun safety groups in 2018. do i see it happening tomorrow. any -- no. any gun control law it will be nothing more than a press release. but i think at this point it's up to the advocates on gun safety to really start playing tough, dirty pool with the nra and start going after their board members. we have seen it in boycotts on advertising. i think it's meant to hold every single member of that board accountable in their hometowns and go after them and their businesses and call them out because until -- nothing will get changed until basically you're one or two steps removed from someone who has been

they had a pinned tweet from wayne lapierre talking about their conversation.sily corrupt abili able. he might have the right instinction after a shooting, but money talks. that's why we don't get -- >> anna casperian says it's not going to happen. what do you say, steve? do you think the red flag law, universal background checks will pass? >> red flag law is a whole different can of worms and that worries me greatly. i fear that we're talking about local governments having far too much power to take away constitutional rieg constitutional rights from individuals. that's a different conversation. expanded background checks, i believe it is going to happen. i caution people i don't believe that is going to solve the core problem of mass shootings because all of these mass shooters have gotten their guns either legally because they could pass background checks or they chose to get them illegally by stealing guns, for example, the sandy hook. >> true, there is no silver bullet. we had a shooting that could have been changed if all background checks are available.

in a statement, nra's ceo wayne lapierre wrote "this lawsuits comes with a message to those who attack the nra. we will never stop fighting for our law-abiding members and their constitutional freedoms." its members also took to twitter. >> the bad guys don't listen to the laws, so stop putting the band-aid on it, stop trying to ban everything. >> reporter: supervisor catherine stephanie who introduced the resolution stood by her claims. "the nra is a terrorist organization that isn't succeeding at much of anything. this lawsuit is just their latest unsuccessful effort." >> it's really hard for me to feel sympathetic for the nra. they've shown zero sympathy for all of the people that have been killed by guns. >> reporter: san francisco's jonathan lally has two friends who were at the gilroy garlic festival when a gunman obviousl biased, but i think it's time for them to be held accountable and this is obviously an extreme means to somehow hold them accountable. >> reporter: lili tan, "nbc bay area news." >> the city does not immediately stand down. the nra is demanding a trial by jury

nra members know they have been scam artists and stealing their money. >> wayne lapierre has had the nra in a head lock, complete and utter control over huge amounts of money, and has been able to allocate to the three hedge fund guys in washington and whoever, and may come to a head because of the nr a's problems, and as for walmart, they are responding to public pleasure, they're a good guy. the ceo of walmart is a good guy, but they are trying to find a balance. their customers are rural customers in the kinds of areas. walmart sells 20% of all the ammunition sold in america for all kinds of guns. they did ban assault weapons in 2015. they did raise the minimum age for gun purchases to 21 last year. so i think getting on the program, thanks to pressure from their customers. >> and what about big sporting -- >> what is it going to take. >> also on lapierre, despite certainly in a weakened status, he's still talking to president trump, you know, routinely, and preying on the fear the president has of losing his base. that is the thing that fuels every donald trump nightmare that som

wayne lapierre, i am not so sure about that and this pisses me off. second amendment allows us deplorable people to raise up and fight it to radical government. it will not be possible with a single shot rifle and a handgun. host: thank you. guest: let me take the second part of the question first. i heard former vice president biden, now a presidential candidate for the democratic make statements the other day that indicated very clearly that any rifle that is capable of holding more than one round, more than one bullet, is a rational or should be outlawed -- is irrational or should be outlawed. that is nonsense to say you should only have a rifle that can hold one round. the sides -- the size of the magazine has nothing to do with whether or not someone is going to commit a murder or not. that is easy to dispose of. the is just ludicrous what former vice president was saying. with regard to your color's concerns about the -- with regard to your caller's concerns about the nra board, i am not here to get into the workings of the board. i will say i h

he met private with wayne lapierre. "the new york times" reports they discuss ee eed nra support mr. trump, both in his election bid and during a possible impeachment. lapierre wants the white house to, quote, stop the games over gun control legislation, end quote. the nra is denying it has special arrangements with the president. it helped him in the previous election by donating $30 million. >>> ahead, the timeline of the whistleblower's complaint is prompting questions into how the justice department handled the allegations. also, a cnn exclusive with elizabeth warren. what she says about the impeachment inquiry. and if it should focus just on ukraine. - in the last year, there were three victims of cybercrime every second. when a criminal has your personal information, they can do all sorts of things in your name. criminals can use ransomware, spyware, or malware to gain access to information like your name, your birthday, and even your social security number. - [announcer] that's why norton and lifelock are now par

he met with the chief executive of the nra, the national rifle association, wayne lapierre.times" reports they discussed nra support for mr. trump with his re-election bid and during a possible impeachment. lapierre wants the white house to, quote, stop the games over gun control legislation. the nra is denying it has special arrangements with the president. >>> the senate democrat is running close with joe biden. she spoke exclusively to my colleague and says she worries about the whistle-blower's safety. listen. >> i do. and i worry about this whole investigation as it unfolds. donald trump and his administration have made clear not just that donald trump is willing to break the law but that they're doing their best to try to cover this up and discredit anyone who's trying to get to the truth. >> and as this process unfolds, you do have any reason to believe that any of your senate republican colleagues will vote to convict the president? >> i don't know, but i see this as a lot more important than politics. donald trump has admitted and it's right there in the documentati

. >> then now this "new york times" reporting, president trump meeting with the nra chief wayne lapierreing at the white house to discuss how the nra could support trump through any potential impeachment process and his re-election. upon learning that, you tweeted this. learning that potus and nra discussed gun legislation show thad trump will use official action to benefit himself. so what can you do with this kind of information? what are you implying is a trend from this president? >> the focus right now is singularly going to be on this ukrainian scandal because it shows the president betraying his interest and doing that. what it shows is a behavior where you've got donald trump taking action on official bills such as guns and either not signing them or saying he's not going to support them. in the same conversation he's having about having support from the nra for his impeachment defense, you conditional do that. you can't mix these two things together in the same conversation. depending on exactly what was said and how it was said, it could either be massively inappropriate or be

background checks, time to do something, and he buckled under the pressure of the nra and lobbying of wayne lapierretion of threats made to him of him possibly losing this cornerstone portion of his political base as he heads into reelection. he basically seems afraid of it right now. i would be very surprised if he advocated for any actual gun measures. i think jonathan's right, there will be some sort of package of something to show he's responsive to these shootings but much more likely to be in the mental health-based or other towards of criminal penalties opposed to actual gun restrictions or expansion of the background check program. >> it's so amazing he's more afraid of the nra than 89% of the american public. here are the numbers for background checks. 89% of the american public powered background checks. 76% supports red flag laws. i bet if more knew what they were that number would be higher. buy back programs gets 75% and assault weapons ban gets 62%. i don't know how many things in american politics get 89, 76, 75 and 62% support from anyone anymore. >> from the bare minimum of universa

stories keep coming up, and there's rudy, and then he takes it back, and trump is meeting with wayne lapierre just seems to keep going on. >> yeah. i'm curious with all these reports what you think of the way that impeachment has taken hold this week, unlike any other week i've seen, and you're our eagle-eyed observer of washington. i wonder what you think. and that's not just in the house that we've seen it, it's not just senators obviously putting up different types of pressure, at least with the co-equal branch saying you got to get us the whistleblower complaint, and then the "new york times" coming out for only the second time in the history of the united states to back the impeachment of a sitting president. altogether what do you see as shifting here? >> what shifted is that we all became aware of a case of wrongdoing that is, to my mind, at least, just tailor made for the idea of impeachment. because you have this massive breach of the public trust. you have this massive abuse of power. you have a president who withholds $400 million in military aid to ukraine so he can use that as le

he talks to wayne lapierre from the nra and suddenly it's a 180.made a decision just like when president obama was the president. when it was obama, he said he wanted to make certain that obama was a one-term president and did everything to make that possible and failed. but with president trump, his goal is to make him a two-term president. that's why he's blocking the senate from even voting or debating on these issues really important to the american people. it's a real abuse of power. just say no. >> final question, if i can, as you know, i had reporting yesterday regarding the president and his oversion to using or listening to intelligence sourced from foreign spies, even inside hostile countries in part, i'm told, because he feels that suc relationship with foreign leaders. you sit on the intelligence committee. does an approach like that make the u.s. less safe? >> it does. if we have access to information that threatens the national security and we get it because we have assets in russia or another country that's threatening us, that is re

president trump met with nra chief wayne lapierre.ange for the support of the nra, lapierre reportedly, quote, asked that the white house stop the games over gun control investigation. and the president said to him, no. i just went to pelosi and said, i want to do guns right now. i'm kidliding. he didn't say that. a new report from senate democrats, said the nra acted as a foreign asset for russia, ahead of the 2016 election. it said the group openly open l fostered relations for whatever won the election. among those russians, maria butina. she enticed officials to visit miss coe in 2016. she dangled lucrative business opportunities. she promised a sitdown with putin himself. the nra claims it was an unofficial event. but documents show it footed some of the bill. could risk costing the group its tax exempt status. the nra denies it. this report goes to great lengths to try to involve the nra in activities of private individuals and create a false impression that the nra did not act appropriately. nothing could be furtherer from the

after other mass shootings and then he talked, for example, to as he did weeks ago the nra had wayne lapierre on the phone. any talk of doing anything sort of evaporates. you get this word salad like yesterday culminating in the fact, well, if we did background checks, that wouldn't help anyway. background checks aren't enough. we need a ban on semiautomatic weapons. we need to raise the age on ownership. we need to talk about red flag laws. we need to talk about a decent system, not one that takes all guns off the streets immediately, but one that begins to limit the unnecessary pre-existing condition o proliferation of guns. if we don't do that. every time a politician says something but does nothing, we call bs. >> scott, a good friend of mine sent me a message after the el paso shooting told me that he and his family would have been in that walmart, but instead they were out camping on that particular week. a good friend of mine from college. these things certainly hit close to home. we heard the governor of texas say he's tired of the bloodshed, but on the flip side, he did sign several

nra ceo wayne lapierre wrote, "this lawsuit comes with a message to those who attack the nra. never stop fighting for our law-abiding members and >>> their constitutional freedoms." >>> first responders in alameda were called to the shoreline north of oakland before 4:00 this morning, they arrived to find a woman 20 yards out screaming for help. they say that she was alert when rescued, but an ambulance did take her to the hospital. it's not yet clear why she was out in the water to begin with. >>> and now to a live look at sfo, and if you're planning to fly out any time soon, you may face some turbulence. so far today, at least 59 flights have been canceled and since saturday at least 440 flights have been canceled. more flights are delayed. the airport is working to rebuild one of its busiest runways, talking about the 1900 foot section that intersects runways one right and one left. at times during construction at least two runways will be closed at the same time. traffic on the runway and then looks like right here from this here. loo busy. >> crowded as sfo. 101 through s

organization, that it misuses the funds it gets from its members to be able to line the pockets of wayne lapierre to provide him $8,000 suits, to have him fly first class and have his wife be able to have a makeup artist at her beck and call. what we should be looking at is the fact that this is an organization that has had ties with russia and has taken money from russians in the pursuit of their interests, and again, i think that what we should be looking at is where that organization is not a nonprofit at all. >> the nra is able to recruit off something like what the city board did effectively. is that one of the reasons why you disagree? why do you disagree? >> well, i disagree because i don't think it's a domestic terrorist organization, i think it violates the, it has misused funds, it has taken money from foreign entities which it has used for political purposes which is a violation of law. inc. there i think there is probably some criminal laws involved with the national rifle association, but i would not call it a terrorist organization. >>> we have more on our breaking news, the preside

he consulted with wayne lapierre from the nra. >> and this because mcconnell feels he can't necessarilyly his own republican senators so in fact, he's punting it to the president to feel that the president could actually rally them behind something? >> yes. so, despite this national outcry over there needing to be something done on guns this has been a top view of republicans for a long time because of the power of the nra and republicans not wanting to buck that interest. it's mired in controversy. some see there might be a chance for a breakthrough on this issue now that doesn't exist before. >> juana summers, appreciate it. stay close. >>> new report on president trump's proposed border wall now one for the construction profit will reportedly be spent on the wall. >>> plus, michigan is cracking down on e-cigarettes. what the state is doing to minimize the harmful effects of vaping. those stories sa, check of the weather and more when we come back. do you have concerns about mild memory loss related to aging? prevagen is the number one pharmacist-recommended memory support brand. you

and wayne lapierre says they are getting less powerful, but we know this happened, he spoke to the president. remember, the weekend after el paso and dayton, suddenly the president had a different view of things. so we need a push back on that. they aren't a domestic terror organization, but they make it easier for domestic terrorists to get weapons. >> harris: i think you and i both looked at that pew research this week. that's where we get our numbers from. 61% of members are republicans, in the nra. 36% are democrats. more than a third. to call someone a terrorist organization when you have that many americans as members, and also bipartisan, i think it's more than just offensive. it goes beyond -- i don't even know if you would say that it is wise for them to do that politically. they are already sanctuary. they are frustrated with a lot of issues. >> jessica: you are totally right. suddenly the media cycle is -- >> melissa: we have to go. >> jessica: we have to go, bye! [laughs] >> melissa: in their lobbying for constitutional issue. the naming and shaming of trump supporter's spreading

for background checks has evolved in recent weeks amid conversations with its chief executive, wayne lapierreking to do background checks. i think background checks are important. i don't want to put guns into the hands of mentally unstable people or people with rage or hate, sick people. i'm all in favor of it. we already have very strong background checks, but we're going to be filling in some of the loopholes as we call them. wayne agrees things have to be done also, and we have areas where we can close -- and for instance, we did fix it last time. we have a lot of background checks right now. >> joining me now is progressive commentator and radio talk show host and ceo of american majority and a former speech writer for president george w. bush. good morning, guys. >> good morning. >> so we know the nra talking points, the arguments on the second amendment, that people kill people, not guns. that's their position. they blame mental illness and we don't know the full story behind the shooting. we know the bigger picture, another mass shooting in america. they keep on happening. these nra t

meeting to northern virginia, in part, according to the letter i obtained, because they want wayne lapierre other senior nra lobbyists and board members to be in close physical proximity to capitol hill and the white house, as what they expect to be a major and high-stakes fight over gun laws played out. >> i want to follow up, too, on something you were saying a minute ago about the politics of this. we've seen tragedies, we've seen mass shootings before. we've seen i can remember 2013 after sandy hook, background checks made it to the senate floor. they didn't get out of there but there was at least a debate there back then. you always see the statistic, 90% support universal background checks. i remember after 2013 there was not a political price that was paid for anybody who didn't go along with background checks, despite that polling. it sounds like you're suggesting the accumulation of these tragedies though may be changing the politics of this? >> i think if you just think about the average parent who drops their child off at school, the fear of what's going to happen after that is b

" reports that president trump met with the chief executive of the national rifle association wayne lapierre support for trump's re-election campaign as he faces impeachment. according to the "times," two people familiar with the meeting said lapierre asked the white house to, quote, stop the games over gun control legislation although it was not clear whether trump asked lapierre for his support or what that support would look like. joining us now, member of the senate foreign relations committee democrat chris murphy of connecticut. i guess, senator, i'll ask you to respond to that first, that meeting and the readout of what we're hearing potentially was discussed in there. your reaction. >> it is not surprising that the nra is making that kind of offer, essentially what they are overing is cash to the president to be used in his re-election campaign or in his anti-impeachment efforts in exchange for the president walking away from background checks negotiations. the nra, the gun lobby, has never been weaker than they are today. they are hemorrhaging political and public support. they are