>> well, you know, i have come across wayne madsen in the past.ean, he pops up on these television networks affiliated with government propaganda, ministries like iranian press tv and russia today. so, when i saw that name, i did a double, probably a triple take to wonder if "the guardi guardian/observer" was actually using the source that i've come across so many times. now, keep in mind that wayne madsen is not just a journalist with sort of strange or extreme views. i mean, these are very extreme views. i mean, he's a 9/11 truther. he believes that the attacks in norway, the terrorist attacks of anders breivik, were carried out by israel. he has strange views about president obama, et cetera. so, when i saw that, i started reading the piece and said, good god, this is the only source in this piece. do they not know who he is or did they not use google? >> well, it sounds like the definition of an unreliable source. what was "the observer's" response when they retracted it? i understand "salon" did a reposting and that's who got the drudge link,