. >> reporter: wayne passelli is a humane society spokesman. >> here they're bunched up and they're falling because this bird got stuck in the cage wire. >> the birds are mummified. the birds have to have been in there awhile. warning bells go off for me, they should be going off for the fda. >> we've been reporting on the massive recall -- >> reporter: in 2010 a salmonella outbreak sickened more than 1,900 people. federal food safety officials traced it to several big egg farms. congress held hearings on the outbreak. >> here's my question, and again, you're under oath sir. >> reporter: hill and dale's then-president refused to answer questions. >> i respectfully decline to answer the question based on the protection afforded me under the fifth amendment. >> the image of the ceo of a company getting up in front of congress and taking the fifth doesn't exactly inspire confidence. >> we weren't running the operation at that time. >> this is a new regime? >> that's there now, absolutely. >> reporter: jeff martin is a hill and dale manager. the company was considerably more forthcoming with us