she dives into the battle over health care in her latest for wbur. kimberly, we've talked so much about politics, let's go back to this one. regardless of where you stand on donald trump, in the last election, donald trump and lots and lots and lots of republicans who are running for office said we are here to protect underlying conditions. and, yet, the efforts that the administration is involved in right now would actually very specifically remove protections for underlying and existing conditions and the coverage of those conditions. >> it would. i mean, this challenge essentially says because republicans removed the individual mandate from the law, that now the law is, in effect, it needs to be struck down completely, including those provisions about underlying conditions. keep in mind, when republicans were campaigning in the last election cycle on the message of protecting underlying conditions, they subsequently advanced no policy proposals, no legislation to actually do that. instead, through this court challenge they are trying to strike dow

county according to their website that's about a 3rd of the population here in the county according to wbur in county health and human services, none of the infected workers have been hospitalized, human services also says that no members of the public are at risk of contracting coronavirus through garbage or recycling pickup as for how these workers got sick health services says they believe the disease may have spread amongst employees who were working in the commercial areas of the company or possibly writing together in trucks or vehicles health services has also sent a team to the company to help them with preventing the disease from spreading any further now we did reach out to marie unsanitary services for comment but have so far. >>not heard back the company is still operating and services should not be interrupted and finally health services also says that as people return to their jobs. this is a good reminder of the importance of maintaining social distancing wearing masks and washing hands frequently to keep the corona virus from spreading. a marine county charles clifford kron

county according to their website that's about a 3rd of the population here in the county according to wbur in county health and human services, none of the infected workers have been hospitalized, human services also says that no members of the public are at risk of contracting coronavirus through garbage or recycling pickup as for how these workers got sick health services says they believe the disease may have spread amongst employees who were working in the commercial areas of the company or possibly writing together in trucks or vehicles health services has also sent a team to the company to help them with preventing the disease from spreading any further now we did reach out to marie unsanitary services for comment but have so far. >>not heard back the company is still operating and services should not be interrupted and finally health services also says that as people return to their jobs. this is a good reminder of the importance of maintaining social distancing wearing masks and washing hands frequently to keep the corona virus from spreading. a marine county charles clifford kron

joining us now is the senior washington correspondent for wbur and an msnbc contributor.t is at your peril that you discuss a 14 point lead in any poll with donald trump on the wrong end of it because of course the lawyer's letter comes the next day if we do that. charlie cook made the point on this show last week about the cnn poll with a 14 point lead that cnn was the last one in the field. and so the next national poll might also show a 14 point lead, and here it is. so the 14 point lead now has been established by two polls in a row. >> yes. and i think, you know, that's the most important thing in a lesson from 2016, is to treat polls carefully and to read them the way that they are intended. a snapshot doesn't really tell us a lot. but when you look at polls over time, that gives an indication of momentum. and if you look at the polls over the last several weeks, you can see that the momentum is certainly going against the president at the moment. and it's pretty easy to see why. it was sort of a one-two punch in terms of the news. one is the handling of the coronav

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kimberly atkins, senior washington correspondent for wbur, boston's npr news station. and dr. vin gupta. he's an e.r. doc specializing in these kinds of illnesses, also an affiliate professor with the university of washington department of health metrics sciences. good evening to you all. kimberly, i'd like to start with you. the initial billing was we should expect perhaps a national address on race by this president this week. this week is about out. today we didn't get much. we did hear a doubling down on law and order and supporting the police. is that it until i guess we read the wording on an executive order? >> i would suspect so. i think the people who we have seen and heard from protesting out of concern about criminal justice reform, out of concern about seeing black people killed by police in various videos -- more videos seem to be coming out every day. when you talk to them, they don't say they would really like to hear the president address the nation. i think 3 1/2 years in when there have been multiple tragedies or crises facing the nation, the president has sh

for that, we have kimberly atkins with us here, senior washington correspondent for wbur, boston's npr news station. jonathan lemire, white house reporter for the associated press. and dr. vin gupta. he's an e.r. doc specializing in these illnesses, also an affiliate assistant professor with the university of washington's department of health metrics sciences. good evening and welcome to you all. doctor, i'm compelled to begin with you and the question what did they expect? another way of saying that is reopening was a big risk. we knew that. it was a political and economic calculation and not a medical calculation. i have for you now just a summary, a look back of what went into it. >> i can tell you on covid or coronavirus or whatever you want to call it -- plenty of names -- tremendous progress is being made. i spoke with the governor of texas where they've done a fantastic job. he's got it in great shape, texas. florida is doing very well. numbers are actually going down. you look at florida, the state of florida, a great job. the numbers are going down very substantially without q

joining me now to talk about the road ahead and wbur correspondent and msnbc contributor kimberly atkins. and ben wallace. here we are, ben, after having had a conversation about change in the wake of the death of george floyd, you're back on now and we are talking about the death of rayshard brooks. how do you see what happened in atlanta, ben? >> what's clear is that a taser is not a deadly weapon. and that he should not have been shot. and he should not have been killed. you know, this was a dui stop, as he fell asleep in a wendy's drive-through lane. and it just should not end this way. and what worries me is that it's june 14th, and we've had three high-profile cases. the end of the spring. and the summer hasn't even started. we have to make real reforms, right now. what we saw in colorado, the banning of qualified immunity, is a great sign. we need real reforms, right now. they're going to have to come at the city, county, and state level. there's no hope that donald trump's going to provide any leadership. so we have to do what we can, where we can. >> let me -- since you brought

our country, long-time friend of this broadcast kimberly atkins, senior washington correspondent for wbur, boston's npr news station. kim, two points. number one, no one who's been paying attention can argue with that point about the diversity of these crowds. that's one of the points that comes through to even a casual observer loud and clear. number two, mattis and obama in what must have been a triggering day for this president. >> yes. i mean, it really makes a very clear difference. you can see the difference in the handling of protests like this, protests based on anger over the killing of unarmed black people, the way it was handled under the obama administration and the way it was handled under the trump administration laid bare. you see donald trump, someone who has always reveled in the power of military might. one of the first things donald trump did, recall, when he was elected was to reverse a policy implemented by the obama administration that stopped the donation of surplus military equipment to local police forces. and the reason that the obama administration stopped that

i want to bring in kimberly atkins, senior washington news correspondent at wbur, boston's npr station and an msnbc contributor. and josh lederman, nbc national political reporter. josh, what more can you tell us about this decision on the part of the trump campaign to suspend some of those events and rallies that the vice president was headed to? >> well, the president still intends to visit both of these hard-hit states but no longer the vice president -- the vice president that is no longer intending to hold campaign visits this week. and this comes as the trump campaign, according to people close to the campaign, are closely watching the political situation. they're watching the president's poll numbers drop, particularly when it comes to his handling of the coronavirus. and they're aware of the fact that the optics of holding campaign events in the hardest-hit states right now, bringing people together at a time when public health officials are encouraging social distancing is not helpful to the president and there is this gulf that continues to widen between the way the president

former congressman david jolly and kim atkins, senior correspondent for boston's public news station wburt seems like when you've got a number like 76% of americans that have watched the events, they watched an unarmed black man die on a piece of tape where someone with his hands in the pocket, a police officer with his hands in his pocket killed him. you've got 76% of the country coming to the conclusion that systemic racism is an urgent problem. for the president to stand up and say anything less than what 76% of the country is, in large numbers, marching against, protesting for, puts him outside the main stream of american public sentiment in a pretty dramatic way. >> first of all, nicolle, i forgive you for stealing my sarah cooper joke i had in my notes. >> can we talk about her for one second. her brilliance -- >> she's a treasure. >> -- unrivaled. she is a national treasure. >> it's extraordinarily funny. if you don't follow her on twitter, you should. yes, you are right. the president, as we know, continues to double down, triple down, quadruple down and so on on his base. he beli

joining me now peter baker from "the new york times" and political analyst and kimberly atkins from wbura contributor. welcome to you both. before i get to the books, i do want to ask about the ben carson tape that we played earlier on the broadcast saying that people are dissecting these dates in which the president has scheduled upcoming speeches including jacksonville in august. kimberly, you first here. ben carson seems to suggest it is all coincidence. is it that or is it calculated? >> well, look, it is really hard to argue particularly with the case of juneteenth which the date of juneteenth is essential in the name. that somehow that escaped this white house. this white house has put out statements to commemorate juneteenth in the past including from the first lady who we'll talk about in a moment and it is very difficult to see that not being some sort of signal to his supporters. keep in mind, this is an administration that also is rolling back protections of transgender individuals during pride week. did one on the anniversary of the pulse massacre. either somebody isn't doing

white house reporter for the associated press, washington post white house reporter ashley parker and wbur senior news correspondent kimberly adkins all analysts for msnbc or contributors. ashley parker, let me start with you, you and your colleagues at the washington post have a nice run down of where the president's campaign currently stands, what the thinking is in the white house about whether he is winning or losing right now. it seems pretty obvious based on everything we know that things are not going particularly well for the president and his reelection campaign right now. what are you reporting? >> that's exactly right. if you look at just about any public measure, the president's campaign is in a bit of a free fall. the president is according to one poll trailing joe biden in six swing states that he won in 2016 and many of which he will need to win this time if he hopes to be reelected. the president is losing support among his core supporters. he's losing support among white voters, those with four-year college degrees and without. with senior citizens and white evangelicals.

and senior news correspondent at wbur boston, and an msnbc contributor, kimberly atkins.bc/ipsos poll asked americans, do you approve or disapprove of the way donald trump is handling the response to george floyd's death in minneapolis. 32% approve, and 66% disapprove. 74% of americans feel george floyd's death was a, quote, sign of broader problems in the treatment of african-americans by police. 26% feel it was an isolated incide incident. as for the other major issue facing the country, the president's approval rating for his handling of the coronavirus remains at 39%. 60% disapprove. so, joe, this is kind of what we've been getting at this morning, which is 74% of americans see something in the death of george floyd, in the killing of george floyd, that is much bigger than police violence. that it is about the way african-americans are viewed and treated in this country and have been for a long time. >> you know, kimberly, what is so dramatic is the change just between 2014 and now. 74% of americans see this as a broader problem, as this abc poll shows this morning, f