. >> only if challenger fails to say weadock it better, -- say we could do it better, gallup poll shows he won by 52 points, that is biggest margin history, reason, expectations were so low, his need was so great, and he performed so well. liz: time left, now the vice presidential debates coming up. you know joke out there is that, joe biden is stimulus for a journalist, his train of thoughts makes those local stops, but consensus performing that the vice president could really give paul ryan's run for the money. >> i think if ryan allows this to be a ego massage for himself over how smart i am and medicare. and you know yes, but ryan has to do is do the unexpected. stage was set today, if i was ryan, i would go after biden, the great foreign policy expert on libya, where the president was. liz: where of th the -- where s the president. >> in las vegas raising money the day after. and the other thing, we had this kannard sold about the tape, we know it was a false -- a fake narrative. if i were ryan, the person i would hurt is biden, i want to see biden try to defend the fact -- when i