. >> it's not so much as weatherspoon mrs. lev dev made the button, whether your news comes on dead trees or through the tablet. >> the tablet or whatever. the fact is it's about or may it be about the thing that journalists do that nobody else does, which is to go out to get stories to put the facts together and then to write about them in a way that is accessible. >> you had you. >> to a wider population which is perhaps different from those that are simply tweeting to one another or otherwise communicating on facebook. >> yeah, but the -- when we had the legal break and i was just sort of having a look at my phone and having -- the guys from the bbc and itv and sky who are covering this, they're not here. they're outside watching it. why don't they want to be in here? because they want to tweet because that is now part of journalism, as well. they tweet, they write, they blog, go on television. they are journalists. what i think is happening is that we're going to end up in a position where there has to be a redefinition essent