imagine somebody like jim webb or jim webb, himself, on the stage with hillary clinton having a debatelk about,s cronyism favoritism, liberal elites on the coast. that's an argument that's going to sell, going to sell in places like potentially an iowa. it's going to sell among a democratic base that maybe hasn't been a democratic base for a long time that's flirted with republicans. in some cases voted for republicans. if democrats want to win, they're going to have to get at least some of those voters back and i think jim webb again, or somebody like him could be the person to challenge hillary on that. >> is he going to step up with you know, going after hillary clinton? >> that's really the question. >> right so far he's really been soft on this topic. he doesn't want to criticize her. he doesn't want to go after her. he's not definitely a candidate yet. i suppose if he gets on that debate stage he is going to go after her and he's going to be tough. i think jim webb is a very interesting general election candidate. i think in this party the party doesn't know how liberal it is but

webb, thank you for your service. and i would like to ask you, what do you think of the health care system now that you have it all set up? and could you tell me -- it is not helping the seniors. i know that because i am of your generation and i am a senior. and i'm retired and i'm also a widow. and my husband was a military man. and it has not helped me. there's just -- i would like to know your opinion of that. host: thank you. guest: thank you for that. i raised a lot of questions about the legislation when it was being debated. it was a very, very complicated and i think most difficult piece of legislation that i saw including four years as a committee counsel. and the problem i think was that this administration did not present a bill. you know, as bob dole used to say, the congress proposed -- the president proposes, the congress disposes. we didn't have a bill to dispose. there were five different bill -- bills that came up through three committees in the south -- house and two in the senate and , 7,000 pages o

. >> woodruff: then, former senator jim webb on his possible bid for the democratic nomination for president. >> i think it's time to put my oar in the water and actually try and lead and do some things rather than to observe. >> ifill: plus, building a bigger safety net in retirement, tips on how to maximize your social security benefits. >> woodruff: and, the triumph over slavery captured in the brush stokes of painter hale woodruff. >> once a triumphant story where the underdog, who is underdogs who are black men, are able to take control of their lives and actually set their own destiny was something that people found thrilling. and i think some other people found quite threatening. >> woodruff: those are some of the stories we're covering on tonight's "pbs newshour." >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> this is about more than work. it is about growing a community. everyday across the country, the men and women of the i.b.e.w. are committed to doing the job right, doing the job safe, and doing the job on time. because while we might wire your street, we're also

where is jim webb? who else is out there? >> a lot of people are calling on elizabeth warren to step into the game if you will. >> a lot of progressives. saying hillary's already. but she's moderate on a lot of issues. >> bernie sanders, as well. >> this clearly a part of the democratic party that wants to be a tussle from the left. it will make our business a lot more interesting if there's a fight, right? >> exactly. >> coronations are not good for the media business. >> we want it to be interesting. >> a good debate. >> thank you. >>> just ahead, joan rivers' new york city condo is up for sale. we'll take you inside the million dollar home.

jim webb went to the golden arches supper club. after he came back out from inside he had a friend on the hood. he took pictures but he started the engine and thought the eagleette would fly away. it doesn't immediately get off the car. pulls out of the parking lot, on to the street. it doesn't go anhere. >> i think he's confused but he's like you know what? i'his goes. >> jim has stopped in traffic. the bird does not leave until after traffic starts moving. and the bird's like he's not going where i'm going so it just takes off. >>> people wearing wet suits on the show but we never think about how they get the wet suit off. how to get off a wet suit. i'm going to rename it how not to. it's a nightmare. 1:45 of this guy trying get out of his wet suit. taken off the boots. it gets stuck and you have to do the hop around the boat and the

brian webb is here in new york with more. good morning, brian. >> reporter: good morning, allyson. 50 states require children to get vaccinations before attending school. now some potential candidates for president are weighing in on whether parents should have a choice in vaccinating their children. >> on a three-day trip to england many say is meant to solidify his foreign policy credentials, new jersey governor kris christie was forced to solidify his statements. christie told parents he thinks parents should have a choice in whether to vaccinate children. his office put out a statement saying with a disease like measles, there is no question kids should be vaccinated. christie's sentiments were echoed by another potential candidate for the white house, republican senator rand paul said that most vaccines should be voluntary. >> i heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking normal children who wound up with mental disorders after vaccines. i'm not arguing vaccines are a bad idea. i think they're a good idea but i think

brian webb is here in new york with more. good morninbrian. >> reporter: good morning, allyson. 50 states require children to get vaccinations before attending school. now some potential candidates for president are weighing in on whether parents should have a choice in vaccinating their children. >> on a three-day trip to england many say is meant to solidify his foreign policy credentials, new jersey governor kris christie was forced to solidify his statements. christie told parents he thinks parents should have a choice in whether to vaccinate children. his office put out a statement saying with a disease like measles, there is no question kids should be vaccinated. christie's sentiments were echoed by another potential candidate for the white house, republican senator rand paul said that most vaccines should be voluntary. >> i heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking normal children who wound up with mental disorders after vaccines. i'm not arguing vaccines are a bad idea. i think they're a good idea but i think the

and as malcolm webb reports it's hitting one group particularly hard. >> reporter: at this school forf children in the city, it's time for physical education. students here use sign language to communicate with each other and their teachers. beyond that they depend on text messages and mobile internet. to the government switched off those services two weeks ago following anti-government protests. he says people use them to instigate violence and looting. and the children that we meet are not happy about it. phone calls television and radio are still on, but are of no use to them. they say they are completely cut off. >> translator: my parents live far way from here. i have not been able to communicate with them for two weeks. i ask the government please, to reopen the text messages. i am really crying. >> reporter: they write sign to his show us, this boy is inspired by the protests against the charlie hebdo attack in france last month. the children here learn skills that help them to get work when they leave. these girls are learning how to sew. normally the things they make are sold

brian webb here in new york.nk you. >>> meteorologist eric fisher of our boston station wbz says there's bitter cold following all the snow. >> we've been tracking the storm since the weekend moving its way across the plains, now working toward the northeast. a long line of winter storm warnings in effect. a lot of places that have just gone over a large blizzard last week. so we're watching this move not from south to north but west to east sliding its way across new york city into the boston area as well as albany, new york. not just snow but a mix of some ice could be an issue in and around new york and around southern new england. we'll have to watch that for the monday morning drive. in terms of snow totals, an impressive band of numbers. much of new york and interior new england looking at a foot of total snow up. that will bring many towns up to 50 inches in nine days, and entire winter's worth in a little over a week. the cold back in action out the door as we head monday evening into tuesday morning, sub

webb.i apologize mr. webb. and i though that my brother served and my father served in world war ii, and there are thousands and thousands of vet vans cominge veterans coming back and starting with vietnam and afghanistan, and they rare coming back, and they are heroes arkped it is getting to be taking hundreds of billions of dollars to do it, but if we can avoid these circumstances to treat the veterans the way they need to be treated, maybe this will be avoided today. >> and we have so much more to be released today. and we have breaking news tonight with the sentencing of eddie ray routh found guilty of murder in the trial of the murders of chad littlefield and chris kyle. ely. for tomorrow is another fight. the 2015 m-class. see your authorized dealer for exceptional offers through mercedes-benz financial services. meet the world's newest energy superpower. surprised? in fact, america is now the world's number one natural gas producer... and we could soon become number one in oil. becau

brian webb has more from new york. >> reporter: there is no escaping the brutal cold sweeping across just about every state east of the mississippi river. >> i'm 55 years old and i ain't never felt nothing like this in my life. >> reporter: the temperature dipped to 2 degrees friday morning in new york city. a record low for this date. windchills hit 19 below. >> i've been here in the snow time and in blizzard of '94. been here a lot of blizzards but this one never seen cold like this. >> reporter: it's the same frozen forecast for millions. >> the eastern half of the u.s., we're running at least 20 degrees below normal. i'm talking from maine all the way down to florida. >> reporter: it is so cold in boston that a giant six story icicle formed on a building. and in philadelphia, the city's 311 call center has been flooded with complaints from residents without heat. normally times square would be teeming with tourists but only the bravest are taking in the sights on this bitter cold day in manhattan. >> it really is cold. that's new york and -- i'll come back in the summer. >> repor

we talk to virginia senator jim webb webb. have a great weekend. >>> is the u.s.lan to isis? a senior u.s. military official revealing plans to retake the iraq city of mosul from isis. that announcement critics warn is giving the enemy too much information. hello, everyone, i'm kimberly guilfoyle. a u.s. central command official says the battle for mosul is shaping up and the american military could start operations as soon as april. is that too much detail about our military strategy exposed? >> operation take back mosul. the united states military commander is revealing details of a plan to take back iraq's second

but webb who lovingly devoured a carl's jr.k on instagram writing "i eat just fine and to all you middle-aged women who like to leave mean comments on my page about my body you can gladly skip my page and go somewhere else." and now webb speaking out exclusively on "gma" saying she didn't mean to offend or single anybody out and that she reacted out of hurt. >> i was really surprised at the response just of the amount of nd disapproval with the way that i looked. it's a very sensitive topic for me because i dealt with self-esteem issues growing up. i was tall and sthin and lanky. >> can you understand why people saw that photograph and thought she does look very thin? >> yeah i will agree. >> and the gap. >> maybe posing in a way that made it look like i was pore thin than i really am. >> reporter: the 5'1" brunette beauty didn't reveal how much she weighs but tells she has a health issue that affects her weight. >> i suffer from a thyroid problem and that's been an issue too. my weight can fluctuate. >> reporter: her message t

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. $15 million funding round led by snoop dogg, jonah hill and maynard webb.oined by maynard webb and the ceo of phil's coffee. glad to have you both here. this is -- there is something going on with coffee and technology. i don't get it but the success bluebottle has had, the success you have had locally, i have seen it in virgin america what is it about technology that is coming together? >> part of the big reason is that we are in silicon valley and we have most of our stores in the bay area. there is a lot of technology folks who come in entry gave a lot of coffee especially the engineers to keep going. that is a big part of it. >> y for you? >> this is my first venture outside of technology. i will tell you my story. i love coffee. i am one of those tech guys that love's coffee. i have a problem. i can't drink anything caffeinated anymore. i have decaf. that is being a loser. nobody has a lot of choices. my son told me about fills -- phil';ss, and he brought me a copy to a meeting. i said you put cream in this. he said i did not. wow. that is good. >> the

host: jim webb, former senator from virginia, thank you for being with us. guest: thank you. host: when we come back, our conversation with former house speaker newt gingrich. we want to talk about yesterday senator mitch mcconnell may have boxed himself in when he said he did not want to see another government shutdown and yet, your successor, john boehner is saying the house has done its job. the senate needs to do its job. what's going to happen? guest: i think the only effective strategy is too divide the bill into two parts. take everything which relates to security, border control, tsa, that sort of thing, send it to the president, bring it up by itself, no limits, and challenge the democrats to stop securing america. and then take the second part , which is all of the administrative components of home land security and attach them to the prohibition on what the president has done on immigration and say, look. if you are prepared to not have the administrative part funded for the rest of the year, and you want to try to run the government that way, that is your prerogat

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malcolm webb reports from goma where rwanda's army is preparing for the mission. >> at this congolese army parade it's his men that are expected to fight the rwandan rebel group fdr. last week the army group flowbsed the launch, the fighting hasn't started yet. the news commander urged his men to protect civilians and maintain disciplines. >> translator: our elders told us a clean shaven and marching in step, never. >> congolese army has been fighting since 2013. the fdr is next on the list but some people here have been wondering why the offensive still hasn't started after the rebels missed the 2nd of january deadline to surrender. we filmed this video last year. the group's leaders have been trying to present a peaceful image. rwanda in the international community don't buy it. now the deadline's passed the u.n. says they must be disarmed by force. but doesn't believe there's a political will to do it. political analyst says the instability allows the province of congo and neighboring provinces to profit from congo's mineral wealth. >> all of these gentlemen they are really owed a

if jim webb became president, i can guarantee you this, he's going to put a lot of rocks in the centernation or con fronation?" from washington, d.c., brett

webb. >> jim webb? >> yeah. >> from virginia? >> yeah. >> okay, sure. i like him. >> oh.andidate. >> i've got to run. >> is chelsea clinton in politics at all? because i can't handle this. >> i think she will be. >> wait a minute. what about roger clinton? >> aha! >> that's a good one. >> i'm going to go. >>> ahead one of the president's closest advisers says there have been no major white house scandals over the last six years. really? greg helps jog david axelrod's memory next. ♪ it's all blown away ♪ ♪ >>> david axelrod is proud of what, you say? listen. >> i'm proud of the fact that basically, you've had an administration that's been in place for six years in which there hasn't been a major scandal. and i think that says a lot about the ethics of this administration. >> no major scandal? no major scandal? maybe if you adhere to some absurd high standard it's true. it turns out joe biden is not a crayon-eating space ghost. and obama hasn't been devouring expensive show dogs as midnight snacks. and no, john kerry is not really a highly evolved tree. some were wondering.

exclusive hotel deals - up to 60% off...priceline.com >>> senator jim webb >>> senator jim web believes he can lead the democratic party into the future and he hopes to do that at least in part by recapturing a constituency from the party's past. >> i made this decision after reflecting on numerous political commentaries. >> on november 19 2014 former virginia senator jim web announced he was considering a run for president in 2016. >> strong majority of americans agree that we are at a serious cross roads. >> he feels he has a vision to offer. he believes big money has taken over politics with government not responding to the needs of the public. >> if you break down our problem in this country it's gray. >> david "mud cat" sanders is a friend. web feels his own party, the democrats are writing off the working class and not taking their social concerns seriously. >> the modern democratic party over the last 20, 30 years the democratic party has abandoned working class white people especially southerners. >> and that's a democrat speaking. once more peter rand is chairman of the democra

we have david webb and tam ra holder former miss america.che of criticism about not being honest in war zones here we have camera, i'm looking right at you, you're a lead presidential candidate telling a whopper of a huge lie. >> that's so old news. >> oh! >> if we're not talking about monica lewinsky and bill clinton, you're going after a 2008 story. she made it up. she made it up. let's talk about brian williams. >> whether about katrina or what he did in iraq. and now it's come to light. and the question is you know, the whole world is outraged. he may lose his job. what about her? >> he misspoke. >> misspoke? >> i think it's a little bit of an exaggeration. >> whoa, whoa whoa whoa. >> no, i looked at the science. researchers got 50% of adults believe they went on a hot air balloon when they were kids. >> smoking pot in colorado or what? >> i don't know. i wasn't on that hot air balloon, but -- >> let's have a reality check here. first of all, you don't misspeak when you do carefully produced segments. that's editors work on too. if you'r

brian webb has the latest. >> reporter: police believe this surveillance video shows 29-year-old robert clark robbing a gas station with a sawed off shot gun. he's wanted for at least four armed robberies in georgia, west virginia and south carolina and the murders of an elderly couple in ohio. >> we all thought it had to be someone close to him because who would ever thought to go up and do this to an elderly couple. >> reporter: authorities say the crime spree started on january 21. lillian and doyle chumney were reported missing. their bodies were found the next day in their burned out cold. authorities say they had been shot and killed, their home ransacked. >> yes, we ar searching for suspects at this time. >> reporter: over the weekend police arrested 21-year-old jeffrey stewart in connection with the killing. authorities say he pointed the finger at clark. >> i think everybody is glad that it's -- there's going to be some answers. >> reporter: police say clark met up with two others after the murders, tab that hazel and jeffy caley. that's caley seen on surveillance video, holdin

webb knows cpr but the police department does not have emergency medical dispatch certification. that means dispatchers are not allowed to give out cpr instructions over the phone. but his chief said go ahead. and he took a leap of faith. >> some sort of measures the child would expire i wasn't going to let that happen even if it meant being reprimand. >> he's my only son. i can't lose him. >> i'm not going to let you lose him. put him on your kitchen table, okay? >> okay. >> all right. barely pinch his nose off and put your mouth over top of his mouth and i need you to blow in it for just a second and see, okay. >> reporter: grandma sherry sprang into action and with no knowledge of cpr began breathing life into her grandson. the nearest ambulance was nearly 20 minutes from the grable home 20 minutes that seemed like an eternity. >> it was the scariest day of my life. all i could do was say a prayer over and over and over please god, don't take my son from me. >> reporter: for this family that prayer was answered in the form of this man, who put their little boy above himself. t

. >> reporter: brandon webb has also battled ptsd insisting it's a treatable diagnosis, not a defense for murder. >> i don't believe he suffered from ptsd. i believe he was mentally ill, and i think that's a big difference. and had chris known that this was a person that was suffering from mental illness, not a veteran suffering from post-traumatic stress, i don't think chris would have ever found himself on the shooting range with this guy. >> reporter: over the next few days, the defense is expected to call more members of eddie routh's family to a jury made up mostly women ten women, two men. >> i'd be more concerned about it's texans. is it enough for the defense to say there's evidence that this guy was mentally ill for him to therefore not be held responsible. >> not enough to just say he was mentally ill. you have to be able to demonstrate that the mental illness was so severe that he didn't understand that what he was doing was wrong. >> reporter: however the trial ends, the debate over ptsd mental health the high price our veterans pay all of it will linger for a long time as

joining me to discuss david webb, tamra holder. stacy, welcome back from l.a.ns. republicans want old people to die, grandma to die, they don't care about the sick, elderly, disabled. >> sean, this is about mayor giuliani who i respected when he was going through the whole 9/11 experience. he is a deplorable -- he's not deplorable, what he said is deplorable. to say that the president of the united states doesn't like our country, i'm not a big fan of obama. you know that. but to say that he doesn't like america is disgusting. president bush doesn't go after obama for reason out of respect for the office. >> let me ask you this. if somebody you were dating okay -- you're laughing. >> how many -- >> doesn't matter. the guy you're dating wants to fundamentally change you, does that mean he loves you deeply? >> no. >> why does he want to fundamentally change america if he loves it so much? >> sean, he doesn't want to fundamentally change america. >> yes he does. he said that. >> he said it. >> what he means is there are certain things need to change -- [ overlappi

we talk to virginia senator jim webb webb. have a great weekend. >>> is the u.s. military giving away its game plan to isis? a senior u.s. military official revealing plans to retake the iraq city of mosul from isis. that announcement critics warn is giving the enemy too much information. hello, everyone, i'm kimberly guilfoyle. a u.s. central command official says the battle for mosul is shaping up and the american military could start operations as soon as april. is that too much detail about our military strategy exposed? >> operation take back mosul. the united states military commander is revealing details of a plan to take back iraq's second largest city. >> officials at u.s. central command brief reporters on this plan. >> remember how much trouble i got in for drawing the line? >> we are aiding and abetting the enemy. >> i do not understand why the president and the administration want to aid and abet the enemy. >> the u.s. military command would release the who, what and when of a pending operation. that's somewhat unprecedented. >> in fact it appears to

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malcolm webb, al jazerra in the democratic republic of congo. >>> you can find out more is the situation there on the website aljazerra.com. >> hello and welcome. i'm here to talk about the intersection of hardware and humanity and we're doing it in a unique way. this is a show about science by scientists. let's check out our team of hard core in other words. kyle hill is an engineer tonight he's turning back time. hearts ravaged by age. suddenly rejuvenated. the protein discovered in a harvard lab. rachelle oldmixon is a neuroscientist. now, science fights back . marita davidson, shows us why the tower of the san francisco bridge may be the safest place to ride out a major quake. and i'm phil torres. i'm an entomologist. that's our team. now let's do some science. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> welcome to "techknow." i'm phil torres and this week i'm here with kyle, rachelle and marita. kyle you went to harvard university to look at one of america's most deadly diseases. tell me about it. >> i went to harvard and spoke with researchers that found a molecular needle in a haystack. let's take a look. the

and syria, david webb, host of the david webb radio show, siriusxm patriot and columnist on "the hillndicated talk show host. both our guests. kayla mueller 26. she is dead in syria david, it rots your heart. >> it does, bill. walid phares made a very important point. i will say it even more bluntly of the americans and people around the world need to pay attention what is going on in radical muslim controlled areas no aid worker especially a woman should go to these countries. when you're dead, you're not going to be able to help the people that you're actually help. credit to her for her courage but also reality has to be dealt with that is something we should put out as a warning to the world. bill: when she went to syria isis was not in the form that it is today. and i think what that shows, david, and leslie i will let you answer this, how quickly this group has become so murderous, so fast. >> very very true. i agree with david to a degree, and not just on the gender of an aid worker. this is a young girl who is given her life to the literally, given her life to help others but

let's talk to rabbi matthew webb and to father edward beck, we appreciate all of you being here.u so much. i wanted to ask you, is the criticism of the president so far, do you think it's fair? father beck, let's start with you. >> i really don't because my interpretation of what the president said was that all of our religious traditions are in danger of being corrupted by extremism and in this case by terrorists. i think he has been very hesitant to name this group as islam even because they hold none of the real tenets of islam. we have something in the catholic church called ex-communication. if you are not in union with what the church believes, with what the church practices, you don't get to call yourself part of that group. and i think that is really the point here. this is not about a war with islam. it's about a war against extremists and terrorists. >> let's talk about that for a second because that has been much debated lately. how to characterize isis. what to call them specifically. do we call them islamic extremists? do we call them terrorists? imam webb, let me as

malcolm webb, al jazerra in the democratic web republic of congo. >> on "america tonight": >> the manor of his death how does that play -- >> i think the jordannians are infuriated. so there is going to be a backlash. >> his blood is the blood of the country and i demand the revenge be bigger than just executing prisoners. >> when jennifer and dave simon took their six month old livia to the doctor for a cold, they were shocked that she might come home with something potentially far worse. >> were you imagining the worst case scenarios? >> i was. >> what was that scenario? >> well, that she would die. >> good evening i'm joie chen. what is enough to provoke a nation to demand revenge? for one of our closes allies in the case against i.s.i.l, the answer was clear. jordan moved swiftly it is all in after grizzly evidence emerged at the murder of a jordanian pilot at the hands of i.s.i.l. fighters. it is a remarkable turn around for the jordanians who some days ago showed ambivalence to the fight. "america tonight's" smsk on how it could transform the bald against sheila macvicar, on how i

but brandon webb insists it's a treatable diagnosis, not a defense for murder. >> i believe he was mentally ill, and that's a big difference. and had chris known that this was a person that was suffering from mental illness, not, not a veteran suffering from post-traumatic stress, i don't think chris would have ever found himself on the shooting range with this guy. >> guilty of the felony offense of capital murder as charged. >> tonight, the jury found routh to be sane when he killed the men, handing down the guilty verdict, putting him away with life in prison with no possibility of parole. a dramatic real-life ending to the "american sniper" saga. ryan, tell us what you're seeing. >> reporter: well, let's start with those deliberations. a lot of people surprised, only two and a who have hours, that's it. the clerk telling us an hour of that was for dinner. the thought is that short deliberations mean guilty. that's what we got here. chris kyle's widow has been here every day of this nine-day trial, but surprisingly, she was not in the courtroom when the verdict was read. earlier today sh