we had webb hubbell brought out of prison. i remember seeing webb sitting in the suit. that's how i met webb hubbell the first time. later on in my life i'm hearing washington d.c. spent may be four hours with webb. he prepared me for what was going to happen. he was former assistant attorney general. he said this is what's going to happen. when i went to prison, i didn't take my family with me. i took two of my -- one current staffer and one who quit and went on to operations media firm. those two staffers went with me and they dropped me off at prison. i walked into the kiosk. i said i'm bob ney here to report. guard walked out and said i knew one of your campaign managers in ohio. got down in there. the guard said, here you have some hate mail. it was from california i remember in massachusetts, you have some hate mail waiting on you. they gave me the mail and you go to the part of the strip down. then i got into the intake, walked into prison, down into the courtyard. the warden, i don't use the language, the warden told the -- said to get away from him i'm sitting