webcor -- m.w.h., i'm sorry. this is what we need from you, this is what we expect from you, and if you can't deliver it, you need to tell me. you can't wait until the end of october, november so i can come back to you, commissioners, and tell you where we're at and what our plan b is going forward. >> well, that -- i don't know -- i'm just concerned that, with business people normally, having a kind of a clear idea of how you make money. when you're just kind of floating around -- but all right. commissioner paulson? >> we're talking about finances, right? it's that simple. we're not talking about people not being able to do what they -- what you guys have decided for them to do. this is just about getting the prices in order. isn't that kind of the -- little bit too simple, but still what we're looking at here. >> that's absolutely what we're looking at. we're looking at the economics of the project of the contractor, making sure that they're not passing on or padding the costs by putting their costs on the sub