president wechter. >> yes. president wecktser wechter is yes. the motion does not pass. >> am i correct we need 4 votes to pass? >> yes. >> okay. >> shall we move to line item 5? >> could we take a 5 minute break before we move to that because i know that may be a more lengthy presentation? anyone have objection? >> no, so long i believe as long as thet mayor matter is closed and will not be reopened after the break. this item is closed? >> unless mr. palmer were to arrive. >> i see. if that's the purpose of the break- >> no, the purpose is a bio break. >> okay. i have no issue with that. >> okay. thank you. we will take a 5 minute break. it is 509 p.m. [recess] [meeting reconvened] [unable to hear speaker] >> department of police accountability performing the department for the fiscal year 2022-2023. 8181 assistant chief attorney from september 15, 2022 through september 14, 2023 with a budget of 362 some odd dollars including $359 thousand salary and benefits. so, that is one reason why i asked dph to make a presentation tonight. and asked dir