if there weich is -- wife is working they are juggling picking up the kids i think there are a lot of issues that are deeply resonant for men in our society so i think a man just as well as a woman can be a leader. also recently one of the things that i found it me some hope with some of the activism around the recent supreme court case which was dealing with the pregnancy discrimination act. you have women's groups and some of the christian right-wing groups coming together around needing to protect women in the workplace. women who are pregnant should not be discriminated against, for whatever reason because they have every right to work and whether you use don't want to encourage them not to get pregnant whatever their reason that i think people can come together across the spectrum and realized when need to address these issues because pregnant women are going to be working and they will be going through their pregnancy or terminate their pregnancy and if we want them to be able to continue if we want these be able to ask women to continue with their pregnancy we want to make sure