start with governor weicker. so any of us on the committee remember weicker eer was a demure person. didn't have much to say. so lowell was the fire brand in many ways. and went on to have every office you can hold in connecticut including governor ship. and we're just really happy you can be here today. rufus in many ways is the unsung hero of the watergate committee. because it's great to put a bumpk of people on a dais and have tv cameras show up. but you can't imagine what somebody would have to do to make all of that happen inside of the senate. and to be able to negotiate to put us all in on auditorium. i don't know how you did it. in addition to being deputy chief counsel flt he had to clear all the obstacles and assuming you made a few trips between senators offices on the campaign. yeah. travel budget for that. anyway, so rufus went on and has been just instrumental in politics in north carolina, secretary of state, attorney general. couple runs to governor. >> one was enough. >> okay. >> it was a bad ye