director weilland, can you remind us would this be the first jam permit that has adjusted their timelater time. >> director: this is the first jam permit that i have brought before the commission to potentially recondition past 10:00 p.m., however, i will note that i have issued jam permits past 10:00 p.m. on a one-time basis for places that had precedence. just as a reminder, the jam is being used as our one time outdoor permit to. but, yes, this would be the first ongoing past 10:00 p.m. >> president: got it. and just for the sake of our discussion here, i think it's important to mention there is a memo and it's in the drop box if everybody hasn't pulled it up. in had that memo, there's the request of the applicant and then there's also an alternate possibility that staff has prepared for us. so i think it's important that we all kind of get familiar with that and have a sense what the options on the table might be if we decide to go forward with something like this. does anybody else have thoughts or comments they want to bring up. i think we would do ourselves a disservice not to