weinberger's proposals were on the defensebudget.were demeaning in the sense that they were treating us like ignorant people. but he got away with it. and, unfortunately -- fortunately or unfortunately i think that it may very well be the big increase of the defense budget, which was not financed by taxes in other words financed by borrowing, in retrospect may have been a very good decision because i think it was one o the key elements in bringing about the end the cold war and the other relationships. so there were mistakes. trade policy w a mistake. i have come to a rather differt view about the budget defits thai had at the time. and about the defensecz buildupt the time. let them just give you one little story. weinberg came over to make a presentation on his defense budget to the cabinet. and he brought some cardboard cutouts with sort of a 6-foot marine aseingúl his budget and sort of a 3-foot tiny soldiers being the budget that sockman wanted. this was the quality and the character of the presentation that he made on the defe

weinberger came over to make a presentation on his budget, defense budget to e cabinet.d he brought some cardboard cutouts with the sort of a six-foot marine as being his budget. and sort of a 3-foot tiny soldier as being the budget that stockman wanted. and this was the quality and character of the presentation that he made on the defense budget before the reagan cabinet. so he treated it -- us like ignoramuses. i think it is a decision on the defense budget to finance it by borrowing by taxes is probably a good idea. thank you. [applause] >> what bill doesn't mention there is that david stockman book, he recounts this exact same story. the virtual having worked on the budget for his catcher and editing, stockman could not believe it, weinberger showed up with a little cut out and pointed at one of them, a jimmy carter would be defense. stock and lost that battle. that's one thing that actually will get to in the queue in a. david stockman played a great role and continues today in other areas, but his book is important on the domestic issues here. and wwould like to go

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elizabeth mcdonald, kneel weinberg and quentin harding. so it's all about the lawyers? >> well, personal injury lawyers are what viruses are to healthcare. they add $100 billion to the cost of healthcare and they poison doctor-patient relationships. doctors know everything they say, and the worst thing is that the system doesn't bring justice to people who have been wronged. only a fraction of them get those big awards we read about. why not create healthcare panels, get the lawyers out. so is something is wrong, you gt compensated. >> healthcare reform without tort reform in it is useless. >> life is such a mystery r we're always looking for one cause to explain something. to me the relationship would be poisoned because who will be inside which insurance company? is your doctor inside your plan? that poisons the relationship, and can we admit it's a little more complex than that. obama said we should see about arbitration, new ways of deciding this, same as bush did in his speech to congress last week he talked about trying new models. republicans weren't interested a

weinberger showed up with little cut out some point did it one of them with a jimmy carter. stockmen lost that battle. that ithe one name that actually we will get to and the q&a. david stockmen played a great role in continues today in other ar but his book is important on domestic issues here. we would like to to question and answers. we have run littl bit over our plan time but we still have ample time for some questions from the audienc and please, we are going to havto speak in a fairly loud voice so we can hear you because of the sound problem bu please ask us the question and also if you want to directed to one particular person on the panel please indicate that in finally please indicate to you are and t institutional affiliation you might have. speak up. the gentleman in the back i believ was first. >> i am attorney here in the city. i am curious, nobody, when we discuss th difference between the rean first term and the reagan second term in terms of foreign policy with the soviet union, iave always believed the key ent and there was a genuine on both sides spoke in

here is neil weinberg, elizabeth mcdonald and mike miello and quentin hardy. steve, what picks do you have that the tea party would love? >> that is what the consumers make the choice on healthcare insurance by shopping around the country so they make a price that's appealing to you. >> what's stopping them from doing it now? >> because right now the system is designed if you get a savings, let's say you take a drug that is cheaper than the prescription, you don't get the savings. the bureaucrat gets it, the company gets. the consumer if they shopped smartly they get the savings and productivity. >> sounds good. what do you think of steve's plan? >> it is great but it won't work and here's why, because there is price fixing going on state by state between doctors, hospitals, insurers an drug companies. why is that happening? because the states have a lock on which insurance companies can operate in their own states and local politicians get a lot of money from the insurance lobby, and then the president didn't mention this problem and that is how you deregulat

r almost killing each other on national television. [ cheers and applause ] andy richter, max weinbergteve: from studio 6b in rockefeller center, the national broadcasting company presents -- tonight's guests are -- and featuring the legendary rootsrew. and here he is -- jimmy fallon! [ cheers and applause ] captions paid foby nbc-universal television -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: yeah. thank you. thank you very much. welcome to "late night with mmy fallon everybody. welcome. everybody is talking about the big health speeclast night. you guys wch the health speech? in his speech, president obama said that he will not sign a health ce plan that adds one dime to the federal deficit. and then he interrupted himself and said, "you lie." [ laughter ] the president said that he wants to bring affordable health care insurance to every american. joe biden got very excited. he thought he was finally going to meet the geicgecko. [ laughter ] john mccain went on "larry king" afterwards to talk about obama's speech. and they just got carried about remini

i mean, the lessons we have learned, articulated by caspar weinberger and lin powell and others is that do you wa to engage arican men andomen in a cause if the arican public is not supporting it, a, a, b, you do not have any support from other cotries, any kind of multilateralm. all of thoseeem to be no factored into e president's decision. >> indee and, younow, let's ke those one at a time i mean, it is true that america public support forhis war effortslipping. now, people on the other sid of that argument would say, well they would argue that the white house needs to do more to sell this to the public, to connce peop that this is worth fighti, to tie it bac to 9/11 and such. the administration ds face a veryeal and growing problem with regard to nato's support, international communities' support for this. the dutch ve announcedhat they will be sort of pullingut of onef the provinc in the south of afghanistanext year. the canadians plan to discontinue theirlead nation status in kandahar, the majo city in e south the follong yearn the wake of the deaths ofix ilian sdiers last week the

so much like weinberger doctrine he laid out the attendance we continue to violate and every time we violate them we end up in trouble. >> host: i am going to move faster because you are with such a great ideas but with regard to something else you mentioned, fcom, what do you predict of thd future of that? >> gst: i think it got start off as a bad idea -- it was commanded by a great general who i know very well and worked with in the highest respecd and the right person in that position. africa command, and on a sort of was preferably involved because we talked about it with ntcom and part of the area of respsibility i was a big believer leading the command and we needed attention drawnnd african command waso be an experimen, not military command on the traditional sense that you look at how you protect america's military interest and build more plants and that sort of thing like you do with the other other regional commands. it was to be from the military perspectives help delop stable security environment. but also not purely military commd. you would have a large portion of the o

dare say he may continue to hang around with me in some way, chief of staff and longtie friend tom weinbergank hanbury especially. he worked with me is counting administrator and then came to join me here and there are a few folks on my staff initially that have now moved on but my first cheapest of, john little, and my former state director matthew hunter were very important in my worknd i appreciate them ver very much. i have to say one of the most singular honor as i have had in my service as an to work with the men and women who serve in our armedorces. to get to know whether it is the pull in leadership clive general petraeus andow is a floridian and the central command in tampa whether they did then some floridians serving in the national guard and having lunch with them in kabul oraghdad or other places here in washington or around the world, they are an amazing group of people. they have my respect and their deep of gratitude for the work they do as they serve our nation in four and in distant places and their families to with them are part of serving as well. while saying thank you