weisbach?ause government has made gambling the way it communicates to citizens on a daily basis. what else is government advertised? casinos, lotteries, that is why you the march madness but you have today. john: what is the government connection to march madness? >> we have gone from gambling being a private and local activity with a group of friends and now with government constantly advertising gambling to society, we have created a culture where gambling dominates the headlines. >> your group is titled stop predatory gambling. what would you do? >> our mission is to get government out of the gambling business. >> when you do a commercial, it's different than your friday night poker game. this is being done is a commercial enterprise. governments are actively cheating and exploiting citizens. if we encourage citizens to go against probability. you have them spending billions of dollars on this stuff are in. >> we will get to this later in the show. but let's stick to march madness are in apr