weisselberg is the boss. mr. weisselberg is also not an innocent party being caught up as collateral damage here. he is an executive who stands accused by a grand jury of multiple felonies including fraud and tax evasion. it is the people's right to proceed in our case against him and his obligation to abide by the schedule that the court sets. and then the defense counsel. back and forth a little bit with the judge. the defense counsel jumps in. your honor may i give one additional data point? the judge. yes. briefly. defense counsel. thank you. when we were back in your chambers, it was represented to us by the district attorney this package includes documents that were found in coconspirators' basements that are tax documents that go directly to the issues. so the statement that all relevant documents were produced 80 days ago just is not accurate. there are additional relevant documents we received 60 days ago, a few weeks ago, and more in here. holding an envelope while he says it. and this package meaning t

weisselberg and his attorneys to go through. so to that extent, we kind of read the tea leaves about the type of evidence and perhapswell get a little more daylight into types of evidence they have. your last question about whether mr. weisselberg will testify or not, i don't think we'll have anymore information on that issue. >> discovery is important, because people can get buried in evidence, particularly on something like this. i'm sure you've been buried in evidence as you've done your remarkable reporting. wherever you're dealing with a financial case, the amount of stuff that can be out there is just overwhelming. so what kind of clues, what would you be looking for that might come out of this hearing today? >> types of clues i would like to get is whether there would be anything insofar that the defense could bring a suppression motion on. meaning, did the government have search warrants that perhaps mr. weisselberg's team can then make a suppression motion on? that's probably the thing that i would look for. where this

yes, allen weisselberg arriving at 8:57 this morning. indicted back in late june and he's in court today for a routine status hearing along with attorneys for the trump organization. so this should be a fairly short hearing today as far as these things go. it's going to focus mainly on scheduling as far as future hearings, future motion schedule. we might get a trial date for weisselberg and the trump organization today, that's something that could happen as well and if there are discovery issues the information the prosecutors have to share with the defense, what they've come up with over the course of their investigation that led to that indictment, if there's any issues there those should be hashed out and worked out in court which is expected to begin in approximately 15 minutes. what we don't think we'll glean today is any information about the ongoing investigation and it is very much ongoing, stephanie. you might remember several weeks back matthew calamari jr. spoke to the manhattan grand jury as part of this investigation by man

weisselberg to. meet and two that is not patently unfair. mr. weisselberg was indicted only 80 days ago, since then we received only 3 million pages of documents. just today we got 3 million more pages of documents. that's over 6 million pages. not to review those in some orderly schedule would still requires to review 25 to 35,000 pages every day. seventies a. weeks it's very very difficult to imagine how we can do. that it is a herculean task. that is it all the more difficult by the fact that i know, as i said here, today more documents are being produced by various parties. we don't even know what we are shooting at, it is a moving target. >> then he says this quote >> also we have strong reason to believe, there could be other indictments coming. again we are shooting in a moving target, so there's a real procedural issue, and i just ask what is the rush? >> okay whether or not there's a rush. what is that he said there at the end. >> we have strong reason to believe, there could be other indictments coming. >> really? why do you believe th

both the trump organization and weisselberg claimed not guilty.y's proceedings and that significant update we heard from weisselberg's attorney. >> reporter: right. this came about because weisselberg's attorney was arguing for more time. this was a status conference, basically an opportunity for the judge and parties to get into court and say now that there's been an indictment, there's been a pleading of not guilty. let's get together and figure out the timing of this and what it's going to be and when are we going to be in court and go back to trial? in the process of asking for more time to be able to file the defense motions, presuming they'll file a motion to dismiss and other types of filings to try to attack the indictment and the charges against their client, allen weisselberg seen center in the screen, he essentially said there's going to be look, there's going to be additional indictments coming. there's a strong belief the additional charges are coming. we don't know what those charges will be. we don't know if they're going to involve

weisselberg is accused in engaging in a 15-year scheme to pay trump organization executives, includingimself, with untaxed benefits. at today's hearing, attorneys for weisselberg sought to delay a trial, arguing they have a strong reason to believe more indictments could be coming from the manhattan district attorney. the attorneys also claim to be overwhelmed by millions of pages of evidence, many of which the judge pointed out were produced by weisselberg himself. the judge ordered both parties back to court next year to set a trial date which he expects to start in the late summer. in a statement, weisselberg's attorneys said the indictment against him was full of, quote, unsupported, flawed, and factual legal assertions regarding weisselberg and said they, quote, look forward to challenging those assertions in court. >>> still ahead, the fbi converges on the home of the man last seen with a young missing woman, as a body is found in the search for gabby petito. >>> also coming up, the white house launches an interagency effort to combat extreme heat as climate change drives tempera

now also in this hearing, weisselberg's attorney brought this up because he wanted more time.day a manila envelope he held up in court with a bulge in it. he said within that, he was told there were 3 million documents, that these documents were found in a co-conspirator's basement and they were tax documents. certainly more information getting transferred from prosecutors to the defense as they're setting up the motion schedule in this case, the judge signaling they could go to trial as soon as next august or early september. >> wow. kara scanella there for us. it was tim lasso's big night at the emmy's. and the other big wins of the evening next. crowaved? get outta here. everybody's a skeptic. paper money. it's the future! get outta here. i'm leaving with my gold. it's not crazy. help me, mother. it's an omelet. just crack an egg. it's another day. and anything could happen. it could be the day you welcome 1,200 guests and all their devices. or it could be the day there's a cyberthreat. get ready for it all with an advanced network and managed services from comcast business

weisselberg and his lawyer is not the best source of information. weisselberg wants a delay.expect further indictments. they have given me millions of pages, and i need more time. all he was getting is the government getting his open accounting records back. it's a bold move. it's like asking the teacher for more time because you can't real your own handwriting. >> eye specially when you were using that handwriting to sort of forge things for other people. we have new reporting from "the daily beast." prosecutors have found new evidence in a basement in brooklyn. does it show this investigation, for lacks of a better word, in a discovery phase? if they're still digging up old boxes and documents, getting ipads, things like that, the list could still be pretty long. >> absolutely. this investigation is still in the discovery phase to be sure. yes, today there's evidence that a new box of document was found in some co-conspirator's basement. you know, a box of evidence in a basement feels quaint, but i think you're right, itunder scores -- there's still a lot we don't know. tru

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you have barry weisselberg who is residing in the property, and i know you've had jan weisselberg one jack weisselberg who is involved with latter capital who is the second lender other than deutsche bank to loan money to trump, and there's issues with those documents. and so the question is going to become who is allen more loyal to? is he more loyal to his sons or is he more loyal to donald trump? but really, the big issue like when i finally woke up and snapped out of the cult, am i more loyal to my country. on top of my family, of course it's always my wife, my daughter, my son, but what about my country? all right? you have to understand he's got grandchildren, eventually he'll have great grandchildren, and so are you more loyal to donald trump who as we all know with the january 6th insurrection was really using it as a coup, or are you going to be more loyal to your family and to this country? and i think the answer should be an easy one for him. >> okay. as always, i have more questions, so please, michael, stay with me. i want to get your take on the january 6th committee go

it could certainly be weisselberg. and, of course, there are other other targets as well it's live case. >> jill wine banks, does it seem as if calamari jr. is the low hanging fruit, and at what point do we get to the fruit on top of the tree? >> well, of course, the top of the tree to me is donald trump, and that will take more evidence than probably calamari jr. has. we don't know how directly he is connecting to knowledge of donald trump. so we'll have to wait and see on that. but i think danya is absolutely correct. i think they'll be hoping to wrap it up while cy vance is still district attorney. he did not run for re-election. there's a new district attorney starting in december. they spent a lot of resources going to the supreme court twice to get tax records of donald trump. they have already indicted allen weisselberg, the cfo. it's possible they'll indict the coo, who is calamari sr., and i think there's a lot going on. when you look at the case, people have said, oh, it's just a benefits case, fringe benefit

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if t-- weisselberg. the d.a.'a manila envelope that had a bulge like it was a thumb drive or hard drive saying that they had just received this morning material that was found in the basement of a co-conspirator in this case, and those records are tax returns. new color, new details coming out here, all part of the effort to extend as much time as possible for them to have to go over all of these documents. the judge said that he would give him the time he wanted. these motions are due in january. the next time they will all be back in court is next july and the judge said at that hearing he will determine the trial date which could be late august, early september, so just as we're heading into the midterms and of course this investigation is still ongoing, separate from the's weisselberg charges, so there's a lot of scrutiny on the former president. >> thank you. >>> pfizer says it's vaccine is safe for kids 5 and over. we've got new details about when to expect shots in arms. >>> let's take a live look at the do

in july, district attorney charged him and allen weisselberg with tax fraud.erg opinion news. tim, what do you make of this news about matthew calamari junior testifying today. >> it's an incremental development, lawrence, but i think it's significant in that it shows the manhattan the a is going down and up the food chain at the trump organization to gather information and gather testimony to apply pressure to anyone in the trump organization who might have knowledge of illegalities there. if what's the calamari's were asked about was consistent with everything else that the main hand issue to attorney has been probing, it was probably about whether or not they got undeclared compensated, in the form of freebies like apartments and automobiles that were not properly declared to the irs. the consequence that will matter -- if the calamari's are exposed, it turns them into potential witnesses against others in the trump organization, including donald trump himself. it involves the question of whether the trump children will be called to testify on the same issu

they have already indicted weisselberg, the cfo.s certainly possible that they will now indict the coo, who is calamari sr. and i think that there is a lot going on. when you look at the case, people have said, oh, it's just a benefits case, fringe benefits that weren't reported. >> yeah. >> it isn't that. this is a 15-year fraud. it's a conspiracy. it is double bookkeeping. they kept fraudulent books. so it's much more than that. and everybody says, including -- you had barbara rez commenting there. she has always said nothing happens at trump organization that donald trump didn't know about. so the chances are, he knew what was going on. he wrote the checks for weisselberg's childrens or grandchildren's tuition. so he certainly knew about that. that's why we have a big case going. >> aside from calamari jr. testifying before a grand jury, what leads you to believe that calamari sr. could easily be indicted in the coming months, ahead of cy vance's retirement? >> the evidence that we have seen so far suggested he got the same apart

they have already indicted, weisselberg. the cfo. certainly possible that they will now indict the c o o, who is kelly marie senior. and i think that there is a lot going on. if we look at the case. people have said, oh it's just a benefits. case fringe benefits that were not reported, it is not that. this is a 15-year fraud. it's a conspiracy. it's doubled bookkeeping. they kept fraudulent books. so it's much more than that. and everybody says, -- nothing happens at the trunk organization. that donald trump did not know about. the chances are, he knew what was going on. he wrote checks. for weisselberg's children's, grandchildren's tuition. so we certainly knew about that. and that's why we have a big case going. >> aside from camera junior testifying before a grand jury. what does it mean that county senior could be indicted in the coming months ahead of the da's retirement? >> the evidence we've seen so far, suggests that he got the same apartment, and car benefits, that weisselberg got. and reported them in the same way. we do no

he's the one under scrutiny just like allen weisselberg was. he is now named as a security director. it was mr. squid's the younger subpoenaed to give testimony to the grand jury last week. grand jury testimony is secret. we can never know what happens behind those closed doors, but as a general matter in new york, getting a subpoena to testify before the grand jury means you don't have a choice. you must appear. you are compelled to testify. but you also get a form of limited immunity for anything criminal that you cop to during that testimony. again, as a general matter, if you are being subpoenaed to testify to the grand jury, yes, you have to testify, but you yourself are probably not getting indicted. they probably want your testimony to contribute to a potential indictment of someone else. well, now mr. calamari jr. has provided that testimony. the "new york times" reported that mr. squid's -- mr. calamari appeared in front of the grand jury late last week on thursday of last week. his lawyers say he was immunized and testified truthfully

is he the kind of guy who would be in the room with allen weisselberg a lot? kind of guy who helped the trumps prepare their tax returns, and he's the kind of guy who has knowledge of what the scope of their business really looked like, who some of their financial partners were, how they structured deals on paper. i think at the end of the day, it was really allen weisselberg and donald trump and -- and maybe one or two other people that had deciding roles in all this. and i don't think that jeff mcconney was always there, but he was certainly there frequently enough that he's a very material witness and he's somebody whose testimony is really damaging to donald trump. >> there is -- there is something that's always been fascinating about this investigation, and that is that the district attorney is leaving office basically at the end of the year, which is unusual in these kinds of investigations. so we have all had this time frame of thinking what's going to happen will happen within this calendar year, at least get started in a serious way. and, so, that's w

weisselberg is going to get indicted more.more -- it's what is called the superseding indictment. you do another indictment on top of the old one and charge him. weisselberg will get charged with more stuff and so is the trump organization and there will be other additional defendants. that's just a matter of time. >> and, you know, david, i've been of the unpopular opinion, i do not believe donald trump would run for president again unless he'll be guaranteed he'd win, if the republicans fix all of the mechanisms from local to the federal system to make it he cannot lose because he doesn't want to be a loser again, right? but my question is let's say for people that think he's going to run, do you think based on having covered him a long time, would he run for president again with all of this hanging on him, the indictments of his businesses, potential legal trouble out of georgia for his own interference in the election with all the legal issues he has, is he really focused on his money problems? >> well, i will not be the l

. >>> allen weisselberg told the judge in a pretrial hearing yesterday his office believes there couldarges coming. cnbc reports weisselberg's attorney told the judge they have been swamped by the millions of documents handed over to them by the district attorney's office and pleaded for more time. weisselberg who is accused of receiving almost $2 million in come pen said said he's no stranger to this. the judge granted the extension for filing pretrial motions and anticipated the trial will begin late august or early september of next year. >>> still ahead, sports. packers quarterback aaron rodgers lets his performance on the field speak for itself. >>> plus the wilds' wide report. you see what i did there. that's next. eport. you see what i did there that's next. because it's not just for kids. can you be free of hair breakage worries? we invited mahault to see for herself that new dove breakage remedy gives damaged hair the strength it needs. even with repeated combing hair treated with dove shows 97% less breakage. strong hair with new dove breakage remedy. why bother mastering som

weisselberg himself and the trump organization has pled guilty in that case, the case is ongoing.ts, lots of breath has been expended, lots of ink has been spilled as to whether that was the extent of the case, whether there would be superseding indictments with more charges on those defendants, whether there would be other defendants indicted on other charges related to the initial alleged tax scheme or related to something else. well, now we know, or at least we know that it's still going. the prosecutors who brought those charges against the trump organization and its cfo, they have been continuing to work that case and they apparently have more to give. the "wall street journal" was first to report that the special grand jury that's been hearing evidence in the trump case, the grand jury that handed down the previous criminal indictments, last week they decided they needed to hear from yet more witnesses. even before the first indictments, the "wall street journal" and also cnn had reported that somebody else from the trump organization, a guy with a name you won't forget, had

have charged weisselberg in a broad alleged tax evasion scheme just moments ago, his attorney said in that he has quote, 'strong reason to believe that more on indictments are coming in.' >> he said that he just received today a manila envelope that he held up in court with a bulge in it and he said within that he was told that there were 3 million documents. he said that these documents were found in a co-conspirator's basement and that they were tax documents. >> seth: man, this tax trump case has more twists and turns than a trump rally dance and more wrinkles than nicky minaj's cousin's friend's guys i know, we are all rightfully focused on other things. but apparently while we are not paying attention, they are finding manila envelopes full of secret tax documents in basements of trump organization co-conspirators. who's the lead investigator? nicole kidman in a shawl "i just found a passport with a different name in my husband's lock box don't know what to think." "well, he is cheating on you." "i just don't know." okay but it's that. it's always that then of course, there are t

meanwhile, a court appearance for allen weisselberg is opening up questions about how those subpoenask. his lawyer says in public that they expect more indictments in the criminal probe of the trump organization. they found a tranche of evidence in a co-conspirator's basement, and the sounds that there might be another co-conspirator also new. let's bring in john flannery. what do you see here? >> i see the same co-conspirator identified in the indictment. one a calmeri who is chief operating officer, and other one is the guy in charge of day-to-day dealings smerconish. it suggests it's in a basement, it's not in a tower, and it also raises question about spoil dls -- spoilation. i wonder if the son of calmeri went before his dad as calmeri jr. was in front of the jury. >> and it almost sounds like something rooting against the company would say. >> it's not a move i would make as defense counsel. i think he was preoccupied with the no collusion of delaying the trial, and he wanted to suggest this is not the stable situation it appears, that it's not just about weisselberg, it's about

allen weisselberg of new york. the trump organization cfo, charged with tax fraud. weisselberg was back in court today, one of his lawyers told the judge that more indictments are expected in this investigation into the former president's family company. the judge indicated a trial will probably not get underway, until august or early september of 2022. so justice won't exactly be swift. with that, let's bring in our lead off guest on this monday night, philip rucker restrengthen court responded for the washington post. , how the new york times bestseller i alone can fix it. yamiche alcindor door, for pbs news our, and moderator of washington week also on pbs. and doctor celine gounder back with us as well, critical site critical professor of medicine. a critical role these days. and it effective diseases, she was part of a panel that it advised the biden transition team, she also hosts the weekly podcast on the impact of the coronavirus. appropriately called epidemic. look at evening and welcome to you all, and mr. booker i'd like to quote back to you. what your co

>>> topping our political radar today, the longtime former trump argues alex weisselberg was in a newhe has, quote, strong reason to believe that more indictments will be filed in the ongoing criminal probe of the trump organization. it's the first in-person court appearance since weisselberg was indicted on charges related to an alleged 15-year long tax evasion scheme. he's pleaded not guilty. brazil's president is attending the united nations conclave this week despite being unvaccinated. on social media he bragged he was going to the summit where attendees are required to be vaccinated but the united nations using an honor system to check or i guess not check vaccination status. moments ago the president was seen unmasked on his way to the united nations building. he says he has natural immunity since he had covid last year. the san francisco mayor london breed under fire after video shows her maskless dancing and syringing during a live indoor performance by the '90s r & b group tone, tone, tone. that's breed on the left and critics said she violated her own masking order and here

allen weisselberg long-time cfo of the trump family business was in a new york city courtroom today. the manhattan da's office indicted him and the company in july for tax fraud and other crimes. his attorney told the court in part today, quote, we have strong reason to believe there could be other indictments coming. weisselberg has pleaded not guilty to the allegations and former trump has bashed the indictments claiming they are politically motivated. >>> up next, more on the legislative log jam for the white house and democrats on capitol hill that could derail virtually the entire biden agenda. you're watching "meet the press daily". let me help. lift and push and push! there... it's up there. hey joshie... wrinkles send the wrong message. help prevent them with downy wrinkleguard. feel the difference with downy. before we talk about tax-smart investing, what's new? -audrey's expecting... -twins! ♪♪ we'd be closer to the twins. change in plans. at fidelity, a change in plans is always part of the plan. [ "the addams family" theme playing ] ♪ they're nice but irritating ♪ ♪ their

weisselberg was charged with tax evasion in new york. for two years he bought himself fancy cars and private schools for his children. none of it was reported. he pled guilty to 15 charges, but lawyers said they're expecting more charges after investigators found new tax documents. donald trump himself has not been charged. >>> as you may know, marriage is filled with hurdles here and there. we're following some newlyweds whose travel voucher unexpectedly expired. >> nbc responds stepped in when the couple thought they lost their trip due to the virus. >> volaris gave them a $1200 credit to use by december 14. ernesto said he tried to use it by december 13 just after 10:00 p.m. pacific time. he said they told him they operate on eastern time. -- central time. when he called it was after midnight central time. they have a whole web page about its vouchers. we didn't see anything on there about time zones, so we contacted the airline. we did not get an official statement, but a few days later volaris extended ernesto's $1224 credit. while

allen weisselberg of new york. the cfo of the trump organization charged. he was back in court. the judge was told more indictments are expected in the former president's family company. a trial would likely not get under way until august or september of 2022 so justice won't exactly be swift. let's bring in phillip rucker, senior correspondent of "the washington post," and the moderator of "washington week." and dr. celine is back with us, a critical role these days. she was part of a panel that advised the biden transition team and hosts a weekly podcast. >>> welcome. i would like to get back to what your colleagues have written -- >> phil, what's the guess on how much time they have in high school civics courses they teach us that new presidents have to get their agenda done after year one. >> that's exactly right, brian. by the end of this year the members of congress and the political class in washington will be looking ahead to the midterm elections and the partisanship will be more entrenched and it will make it difficult for bipartisanship that biden has been looking for

weisselberg attorney argued for more time to review 6 million pages of documents.ants when he pointed out that just before monday's hearing began, prosecutors have turned over a box of tax records from the company that were found in coconspirators basements. the new york times reports, the office has been scrutinizing matthew calamari who once work is trump's bodyguard over four decades to become the trump organization chief operating officer. it is unclear whether the prosecutors roll will charge mr. calamari. his lawyer told the times that they presently intended to indict him. he has been informed to the contrary, the trial preparation. the tentative trial date of approximately one year from now, susan hunger former manhattan assistant. he's a white-collar criminal defense attorney. tim bryan, senior columnist. the author of the trump nation. >> the speculation immediately goes to coconspirators. >> who are you talking about? who might be the new indictments? a lot of speculation tonight, including donald trump as a possible defendant. there are reports indicati

what i think particularly they need, this was not to go after allen weisselberg. trump's c.o.o.l be next who rose through the organization, been there 25, 30 years and as i said the last time i was on the show, the children and donald himself. so it's coming. and i think coming sooner than later. >> donny, i heard from a former trump advisor yesterday who said, of course donald trump's a very rich man but in terms of the cash flow and the rate that he and his family are accustomed to, all these legal inquiries and inputs and pressures are straining the system, and the kids are terrible stewards of this undertaking. what do you understand about trump's finances and sort of the -- who's managing the ship. >> well, first of all, he's got $600 million coming due in loans over the next few years that he's personally guaranteed. trump's net worth is probably a lot of people think maybe a billion dollars, maybe somewhere around there, but he's certainly not flush with cash. and a lot of his assets are bleeding money and the other interesting thing, when you talk about the family and ho

whose former corporate chief financial officer, allen weisselberg, is under indictment for an allegede. joining us now is timothy o'brien who when not getting sued by donald trump and winning in court, is a bloomberg opinion senior columnist and author of "trump nation: the art of being donald trump." tim, great to see you. what do you make of this new lawsuit? >> john, it is just an exercise, i think, for trump to try to dispel some of his own inner demons. he is deeply insecure. he grew up in queens, sort of fetishizing coverage in "the new york times." it's his hometown paper of record. he sees it as a good housekeeping seal of approval around him and what he does. but the two sort of core elements of this lawsuit that -- that the "new york times" and -- and siouxue craig her colleagueo are all pros, know exactly what they are doing, somehow went astray by publishing information they received from a third party, in this case mary trump, has absolutely nothing to stand on in a court. there is very well-established legal precedence that protect reporters who publish information they

indictments coming in the new york district attorney prosecution of the trump organization and allen weisselberg later donald trump files a $100 million lawsuit against his niece. this to me feels like a tactic, it feels like a distraction more than anything else. >> yeah, thus the small eye roll you expressed there as you were talking about this. melissa, to you, trump claims his niece conspired with "the times" to get his tax returns for that pulitzer prize winning story, adding that "the times" got mary to get the tax returns. >> the crux of the lawsuit comes down to whether or not mary trump and her uncle had some kind of nondisclosure agreement related to the settlement of a lawsuit mary trump had filed against the family about the disposition of fred trump's estate. if it turns out this broad settlement agreement includes the nondisclosure of the financial records that were then released to "the times," he may very well have a case. the crux is if that mary trump can establish that the nondisclosure agreement was asking her to conceal criminal activity, she could have a real defense, becau