i think the pmi data is very welco welcome, obviously.ith what we've seen from the eurozone. i think the big question, just how poor the growth performance has been over the last few years. it's not about a couple of months of decent economic data. it's about a much more vibrant, sustainable recovery. >> new records, 54.7. that's all right for manufacturing. >> it's fine. it's good news. >> how many more months of this do we need before you change your tune, darren? >> before i change my tune? >> yeah, before you change your tune. you're sounding, look, the data's nice, but, you know, it's not -- it doesn't mean anything. so how long before this data means something? >> so we got gdp data last week which showed it's 4% below the peak of the last cycle. which if you take out a few of the periphery countries, it's the worst performance of any country in the world. >> we didn't have a double dip, at least. >> it depends on how many decimal places you go down there. the performance over the last four or five years has been terrible. four or f