rosengren of the boston fed who was one of the two that dissented based on the fact that he felt rates should be held. neil: one other disagreed as well, but he wanted more. >> he wanted more of ai think this is a situation where the president has browbeaten the fed to the point where they will cut under pressure. not everybody will agree with that, but i believe that's true because with an economy that's so strong, i just don't believe there's a need for a cut. we're taking antibiotics here before we're even sick. it's a waste of our ammunition. neil: i agree with that. what do you think >> i like the parallel. it really does feel like -- it is like a broken window theory here. neil: you're just jealous because you used the apple to apple thing. he used the antibiotic. >> i like the antibiotic thing. i my think my apple to apple is better. it is not just powell trying to make a decision in cutting rates, but i think it is a back and forth between president trump and powell. there's an election that's about to happen. if the economy goes into a recession, president trump there's not going to be -- there's going to be major waves when it comes to his campaign. neil: now he has s