my guest today is sir jeremy farrar, director of the wellcome trust and a key scientific adviser to thek government. just how dangerous is the moment we're in now? sirjeremy farrar, welcome to hardtalk. pleasure. governments around the world have had pretty much six months now to figure out how to get control of covid—19. how do you think they're doing? i think we face enormous challenges. we've got a virus which came across from animals into humans maybe sometime in 2019, maybe before that. to which none of us have any immunity, we have no treatments, no vaccines, no diagnostic when it happened, and it's very, very transmissible. it goes from me to you very easily and so spreads around the world in, what, 100 days and it was essentially in every country. so, i think we face an enormous challenge. in fact, i don't believe the world has really come to understand the threat that we continue to face. i mean, isn't that the problem? because i mentioned the six months because it is pretty much six months since it became clear that the transmission was moving beyond borders, beyond china, to