[people shouting] >> weller says, without the penny, charities, too, would suffer, on the theory thate less likely to donate as many nickels. as it is, penny drives around the country collect tens of millions of dollars a year for medical research for the homeless, for education. >> you have school groups all over the country that are raising funds for important causes, on katrina relief, for new computers, or other issues for their schools. >> but as weller freely admits, he's got a financial interest in the high cost of penny-pinching. remember that shower of zinc pennies at the mint? well, weller's a lobbyist for jarden zinc, the tennessee company that sells those little blank discs for the mint to turn into lincoln pennies. if you don't have the penny out there, it would be a major kick in the pants to the zinc industry, wouldn't it? >> i think if you look at overall at the uses of zinc in the economy, that this is a smaller part of that overall. i think if you look back at the merits of the argument, which is, what happens if you don't have the penny and you round transactions to

authorities say there were no fires despite gas tanks being ripped off 18 wellers on the mass of wreck is a foggy driving conditions may have been the cause of this pilot. >> we will be right back as kron 4 news continues. >> this fire at a warehouse in miami. as you can see it just collapsed and firefighters are trying to put the war on the roof of this fire and this is starting to grow right now. this is a live picture that is coming in on our satellite. if this is a fabric warehouse fire in miami. dozens of firemen had to pull back because the roof collapsed. >> another live look in new york city we're watching wall street and the dow jones is a short trading day. the dow was up 52 points and investors like what they see with shoppers out the malls. the dow was up to $12,889. facebook says said they will take away users right to avoid all major issues concerning the government's of its 1 billion on-line network. the company says that they want to ditch the system replace it with new ways for users to submit questions to facebook privacy team. the company lists two primary reasons fo

there were no fires despite the gas tanks being ripped off of 18 weller's during the mass of rack.gether. authorities say foggy conditions may have been the cause for the massive pileup. five people are dead after fire destroyed an apartment building in missouri yesterday morning. for all the units of the complex were destroyed. city officials set up a community center to provide emergency services to people need help. the cause of the fire is so far undetermined. still had it nasa says it's mormars rover has made a discovery. and we will check the weather as the kron4 news continues. >> mars rover curiosity made a discovery but we will have to wait to find out what it is. the discovery came from soil on the rovers sample analysis. curiosity's chief scientist says the data is " looking really good. the scientists want to double check the results before announcing what curiosity found at the american geophysical union home sometime next month. a double live look outside the golden gate bridges on the left and there is no problem if you're headed to san francisco. on the right side i

authorities said there were no fires, despite gas tanks been ripped off 18 wellers on the mass of wreckn 5100 vehicles were involved. accord is a fall may have cost the pilot. >> a fatal accident least two people in critical condition and this this between cars and a police cruiser. >> >> emergency crews are still on scene investigating a fatal accident on 1 01 x embarcadero. this happened about 30 minutes ago. there were several vehicles involved included a patrol car. one vehicle flipped over as well as the three right lanes are blocked. this is really a stretch you should avoid. stay away from 1 01 north bound and you should hop over to 280 as an alternate. you can consider the el camino as well. 1:00 p.m. is the estimated time for reopening. >> traffic or around the rest of the bay area is doing just fine here is a look at the bay bridge. it is been trouble-free and it is still less than 10 minutes. if you're heading out on 92 you're ride is looking pretty good. do keep in mind that if you are coming from 92 and marginal to 101 you do have this fatal accident to worry about. last bu

do wellerate romney would in the philadelphia suburbs. they recognize that romney, last month -- >> people are still voting. the campaign is flush out with the voters. there is an obama video on twitter, where he's trying to convince his people to go vote. go vote, it's gametime. we don't get another chance tomorrow. >> and michelle obama's name -- make sure you vote. get people out to the polls. this is literally going down to the wire. >> further complicating things. in new jersey, they extended the voting deadline and you can vote online because of the storm damage. , wet of the votes ,w won't know when they are tallied. new jersey is not competitive. if it is close -- there may be a recount or legal challenges. i worry about a 50-50 country. people are really empassioned about the election. they may not see specificity in the next four years but i wonder, if it is close, people will get fired up. >> one side or the other will argue about legitimacy. it.oth sides -- you've seen and for seaside viewers -- there is the debate about if al