[people shouting] >> weller says, without the penny, charities, too, would suffer, on the theory that less likely to donate as many nickels. as it is, penny drives around the country collect tens of millions of dollars a year for medical research for the homeless, for education. >> you have school groups all over the country that are raising funds for important causes, on katrina relief, for new computers, or other issues for their schools. >> but as weller freely admits, he's got a financial interest in the high cost of penny-pinching. remember that shower of zinc pennies at the mint? well, weller's a lobbyist for jarden zinc, the tennessee company that sells those little blank discs for the mint to turn into lincoln pennies. if you don't have the penny out there, it would be a major kick in the pants to the zinc industry, wouldn't it? >> i think if you look at overall at the uses of zinc in the economy, that this is a smaller part of that overall. i think if you look back at the merits of the argument, which is, what happens if you don't have the penny and you round transactions to

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weller's civilian casualties exceed 40,000 lives our sacrifices are immeasurable both in terms of theaused to our infrastructure. my government has determinedetermined to bring this bloodshed and violence to them and that it can't be done overnight nor can it be done by unleashing a senseless force against our citizens without first making every effort to bring the misguided and confused elements of society back to the mainstream. we also have to ensure that critical bodies and civil society are on the same page. the critical bodies and the civil society are on the same page so as to create an enabling environment is necessary to tackle this menace. it was to this extent and it was to this end in an extraordinary expression of cohesion the parties conference underlined giving peace a chance. ladies and gentlemen my government is also determined to address the challenge caused by a weak economy. while recognizing the urgency of focusing on the religious sector which is hampered national growth and created huge social unrest. major reforms have been introduced to ensure sound macroecono

blue state weller's are moving into red states -- blue state dwellers are moving into red states. when we start adjusting ourselves as a nation to say what works and what doesn't, then we will start seeing help for everyone. is there a little discomfort convert -- discomfort, yes. caller: first of all, thank you, star parker. this is a pleasant surprise. you meet -- you need to run for president. you make sense. you back up everything with facts and he did not answer around trying to be politically correct. there are may disconnect people in this country looking exactly for that. this is what i was coined to call in for. i am listening to you and i -- this is what i was going to call and four. one thing that ties into any -- this is what i was going to call in for. my father would rub his fingers together and say, it is about values. things are of words because of the value they have. there is a sense of accomplishment and pride in achieving something you thought maybe you were not capable of doing. guest: a friend of mine told her recently that we have no value. we had 50 years o

blue state weller's are moving stateed states -- blue dwellers are moving into red states.hen we start adjusting ourselves as a nation to say what works and what doesn't, then we will start seeing help for everyone. is there a little discomfort convert -- discomfort, yes. first of all, thank you, star parker. this is a pleasant surprise. formeet -- you need to run president. you make sense. you back up everything with facts and he did not answer around trying to be politically correct. there are may disconnect people in this country looking exactly for that. this is what i was coined to call in for. i am listening to you and i -- this is what i was going to call and four. one thing that ties into any -- -- this is what i was going to call in for. my father would rub his fingers , it is aboutsay values. because ofof words the value they have. there is a sense of accomplishment and pride in achieving something you thought maybe you were not capable of doing. guest: a friend of mine told her we have no value. we had 50 years of the social engineering and we have bankrupt this