minister says his programme for government is about translating the manifesto promises that one welsh labourhe new government will take to achieve those promises. some of them are measurable commitments, so paying workers in care homes the real living wage, for example, or 20,000 new social homes for rent. others are less easily measured. recovering from covid—19 for example, tackling charm —— climate change, prioritising mental health. the document doesn't spell out the details of how those things will be achieved or what success will look like. the opposition parties say that this document is pretty thin considering the challenges that wales faces over the next five years. you do have to remember that although welsh labour secured an impressive set of results back in the elections in may, they didn't win a majority of seats, so mark dreyfus will have to reach out to the opposition parties if he wants to achieve things like clean air legislation or reforming council tax. he is also hoping that the uk government will stick to its deadline publishing its plans for social reform by the end of

there are signs of perhaps a strengthening of welsh nationalism, labour seems to be pretty secure in lts in the welsh parliamentary and welsh assembly elections, the senate, we have scotland and the pressures on scottish independence. hard to know what that will have on the wider uk. in northern ireland you have a parallel system where none of the parties have a presence and therefore arguably governments don't take northern ireland voters that seriously. the whole package is very, very fluid at the moment. it's incredibly fluid and there are not really parallels with the 80s, beyond the fact that this is another long survey conservative government for the reasons you suggest. in the 1980s, it's easy to forget, all power and effect was centralised at westminster. there was no scottish parliament. there was no northern ireland and wales assembly. now we have this very diverse and fractured picture. which adds to the uncertainty the other guests have been exploring at the moment. you have this bizarre situation. where the tories are triumphing in seats that were solidly labour once and

were you adviser to the welsh government and the then first minister, the first labour government didrticular government. i note from this particular programme for government, targets are sorely missing, and it would be beneficial to understand, especially when it comes to the economy, how much ambition you have for the economy here in wales. it's up to this government to show that a truly transformative - programme for government can be put in place within that uk context. - i'm afraid that that is not - what i see in this programme for government, but as i wish - the first minister well in embarking on the next five years, _ i guess it's up to his government to prove me wrong. rhun ap iorwerth. time now for some other news from around westminster, and a former bbc director—general has told mps that, in hindsight, martin bashir should have been sacked over his behaviour in the run—up to his 1995 interview with princess diana. at the time, tony hall investigated bashir�*s faking of bank statements amid questions about whether the reporter had used them to secure the scoop. lord hall,