where the united states has territory, american citizens who are represented in congress in the wen pacific. in the western pacific. so pulling all the way back to, you know, u.s. territory means pulling all the way back to guam. so that's not really -- seems to me that's never been a really realistic geopolitical option. how -- and we'll go to last -- >> just two brief points. i think we need to rediscover our imagination of the tragic in terms of thinking about what a real breakdown of international order can look like, because we've been blessed to have this order for the past 70 years. i think it's hard for people today to understand what can happen when things really go wrong. the second point is that i echo everything that's been said about the importance of the south china sea. i would simply add i think for any administration whether that was the obama administration in '15 and '16 or the trump administration today, it's important to really have a firm idea of what you're trying to accomplish in the south china sea and when you are willing to use the level of coercion that is necess