. >> joining me "washington post" wonk blog author, and wendall potter, former executive who testifiedn reforming the health care system. welcome to you both. wendall, how do we know if this is working? >> we know it is working we have so much interest in the exchanges so far. doesn't surprise me. i traveled and talked to many, many people who were uninsured waiting for this day. so i would have been surprised if we didn't have this volume of interest in the exchanges. >> ezra, build on that. were you surprised to see the over a million people on the federal site. over two million in new york. many other states, seeing a tremendous interest as we are hearing so much about government being broken? >> this completely overwhelmed the expectations of people on the online marketplaces. the head of the california exchange. joking a bit. he said two people would seen up on the first day. person after person, who is running these things said, look, don't get october 1st stuck in your head. ate not going to be that big of a deal. that its the beginning of a process to get people to the website.