so it reminds me of that moment in wendell berry where he says racism comes to him as natural as language. >> it's such an important point and this gets us up against it because this gets us up against individualism which causes lots of white people to meltdown into white fragility. you don't know me, how can you say anything about me? and it's true, i don't iknow all of you, i don't know most of the white people i'm talking about. that's on each individual one person to look at how have i been shaped bythis ? what's my class position, what's my gender within the society that no, i'm just going to go here. white supremacy, the idea that white is the stand-in for the ideal human and the further you are away from that standard, the less human as he argues, it's really an argument about species. at the white body is the standard by which all bodies should be measured , i'm quoting now. so the further you are away from that whiteness, the less humid you are. .that's the society you live in and where all shaped by it . that's why i shift the question from if the how. as far as gender, i don't