a young district court judge had invited oliver wendell holmes out to lunch. they had had lunch and returned to the capital where the supreme court was at the time. then he turned to oliver wendell holmes and said, well, sir, goodbye. do justice. then oliver wendell holmes spun around on him fiercely and said, that is not my job. my job is to play the game according to the rules. which of the grid judges had it right? [laughter] does a distinct sense of judgment affect how you play the games by the rules. >> i think the story are possibly are possible because the learned hand that i studied played by the rules and did justice. >> i think the learned hand said later that he did it deliberately to be provocative. he knew he would have that kind of reaction from holmes. >> one of the great privileges was to ride in the back of the car while my judge drove the great learned hand home. and part of the story was that i wouldn't give it anything to -- but these were pretitle 7 days and learned hand did not want a woman as a law clerk. yet in the car he would say anyt

the learned and it turned to oliver wendell holmes and the said," could buy, do justice." oliver wendell holmes by around -- spun around and turned on him fiercely with eyebrows bristling and said," that is not my job. my job is to play the game according to the rules." which of the great judges had it right? [laughter] does a distinctive sense of justice affect how you play the game by the rules? >> i think the story is probably apocryphal. [laughter] because the learned hand that i studied played by the rules and do justice. -- and did justice. >> the learned hand said he did it deliberately to be provocative. he knew we would get the reaction from justice holmes. >> one of the great privileges i had as a law clerk -- this was way back in 1959-1961, was to ride in the back of the car while my judge, judge edmund palmieri, drove the great learned hand home. part of the story was that i would have given anything to clerk for learned hand. these were pre-title seven days and learned hand did not want a woman as a law clerk. yet, in the car, he would say anything that came i