and write before i went to school batt but 2011 illinois school report card modest progress wendell phillipss meeting or exceeding standards but at phillips they number only 16 percent. double what it was the previous year math teacher also playing catch- up with her students says the test scores alone could not add up to the story >> 5 grades below grade level still not at grade level on paper still might not look that great of looking at growth different thing. critics question whether the model is even working donald maurer had designs for change studying elementary schools in chicago preparing them to those controlled by local school council >> far outperforming schools with assistance taking over status quo some of the tanks that goes along with the structure and engineering of the school's >> trying to develop like every other high school just the development and it is going to take time >> two years into the turn around the principal says made progress but not there yet >> only school dean of the challenges definitely not but definitely also doing things about it >> just a snippet of

he would harken back to socrates and wendel phillips. he started out with an idea that was deeply popular, but the next next step for moral evolution. >> we have a hoosier for the next call. this is chris on t line. >> caller: thanks for having the conversation. it is a great surprise to see on television tonight. i wonder if your guests would comment on debs' relationship with the industrial wrs of the world and with general strike in seattle. >> all right. lisaphillips. the i.w.w. >> debs was a founding member of the i.w.w. which started in 1905. the i.w.w. was a clearly an industrial union movement. it was jux thtaposed with the ct lab labor union. debs created a working class of people. it is not as nationalistic. it worked to work with other countries like spain and italy. they saw them selves as part of the workers movement among workers fighting capital worldwi worldwide, not just in the united states. it fit in with debs interpretation to promote the rights of workers not only in the united states, but other places as well. >> wa

he would point back to jesus, to socrates, wendell phillips. that history starts out with an idea that seems deeply unpopular, but in retrospect is the necessary next step for moral evolution. >> we have a hoosier for the next call. this is chris on the line. welcome to the conversation. >> caller: thanks for having the conversation. it is a great surprise to see on television tonight. i wonder if your guests would be able to comment on debs' relationship with the industrial workers of the world and with general strike in seattle. >> all right. lisa phillips. the i.w.w. >> debs was a founding member of the i.w.w. which started in 1905. the i.w.w. was a clearly an industrial union movement. it was juxtaposed against the federal labor which is a craft skilled labors union. it was like what he promoted with socialism, a moving among a work class of people. its boundaries are not as nationalistic, and it's thought to work with workers in other countries, spain, france, italy. this never came to be, but they saw themselves as part of a worker's move