. >> wendell potter what do you think? >> insurance companies are making a lot of money. one small segment of the population that they are trying to serve. it's important to keep in mind that the ceo of united who he was talking to when he was talking about the possibility the company getting out of the exchanges in 2017. he was talking to investors. and that from having worked with two of the largest insurance companies for 20 years -- that is who they listen to most. and this is not a profit center for them yet. and they -- they -- they think very short-term. they have to meet wall street's financial expectations every three months. and if they are not, investors say, look, is this a good place for you to be. >> let me jump in there, in response to his announcement, united health shares went up 2.5% in the next day's trade. >> exactly. because that's what those investors wanted to hear. at least they saw that united was possibly considering doing something that might make sure that they emphasize other aspects of the business where there are higher profit margins. anthe