wendell willkie of indiana and charles mcnary of oregon. mr. welty visits a family of one of his former split -- mr. willkie but it's a family of one of his formefarmer. they does not let anything stand in his way. willkie but it's a family of one of his formfarmer. they does not let anything stand in his way. these are practical corn belt farmers. his interest in america's young people is >> from the republican national committee -- amity shlaes, he described himself as a liberal. this is an important point to understand. rebels, in the 1940 is a very different term. -- liberals in the 1940 as a very different terms. what's he met the liberalism of the individual -- your individual rights. not the liberalism of the group. not the progressive block. that is quite different from liberalism. that is what he was seeking to define, especially in the middle of the 1930's. 1930's. >> richard is joining us from wellington, florida. we are within a the shlaes and james madison. shlaes and james madison. >> you mentioned the important role of the publica

willkie had the misfortune of running against that skillful politician. >> was wendell willkie consistent all the issues in the 1940 campaign? >> i do not think so. the campaign started to go badly for willkie. the disorganization, the chaos. in the last part of the campaign, he moved in the position on the war and a new deal that he may not happily agreed with. they were more harsh than the truth wendell willkie. >> amity shlaes. >> he was inconsistent, but we cannot downplay is a success. he won more votes in that election with any republican had ever won. electorally, roosevelt was that wily fox. on the popular vote, it was much narrower. willkie got much closer to the democrats than republicans have before. to the tape we just heard of roosevelt, roosevelt really did become worried. maybe we will hear tonight another tape where he worried about whether he could use willkie's mistress as a back to him in theo be election. there is a lot of stuff going on and they are beginning to take him seriously. that was the future of the campaign. a very important girlfriend back willkie had. >> y

thomas dewey once remarked, wendell willkie was a democrat all his life until 1940 and never got over so willkie has that problem. he ultimately will be the only major candidate to openly engage in the primaries. as we've talked about before, the primaries were not like they are today. there is a much different road in 1944 to the presidential nomination than we would see, say, in 2012 or 2016. but there are primaries, and willkie will openly participate in a few of them at least. in the new hampshire primary, he will come in first. he's really the only candidate campaigning. and yet he falls short of a strong delegate showing. i think there were around 11 or 12 delegates up for grabs in new hampshire. and he wins six of them. and just as today, politics oftentimes is a game of expectations, and the expectation was that willkie would get around 9 or 10 of the delegates. he only gets six. thomas dewey, who was the republican governor of new york, got three delegates and he wasn't even running, he wasn't even on the ballot, i believe. so you had a disappointing show for willkie in the n

wendell willkie, of course, was the republican candidate for president back in 1940. he was unsuccessful in that race. he had done much better, remember, than landon in 1936 and certainly hoover in '32, but he had fallen short. and ultimately he was distrusted by many conservative republicans. former president hoover, for example, with some of his contacts in the media will circulate this notion that, you know, wilky did not really do as well as republican candidates who had toed the conservative line. he was deemed to be too liberal, a little too pro deal, a little too conventionalist, and hoover and other conservatives within the gop, willkie, even in areas where he's winning, is running behind some republican candidates, and some areas where there is a republican wind at the gubernatorial level, he's not winning at the presidential level. wilkie is deeply upset about this rumor going about, and even responding to mark sullivan, i believe of the "washington post," privately and insisting that hoover and others are cherry picking their returns. and that, i actually a

and sunday, the 1940 republican presidential nominee wendell willkie. >> as i was driving up the streets, at his vacant store window, had pictures of my opponent and his associates on t the new deal ticket. i don't know of anymore appropriate place to put those pictures. >> for a complete american history tv schedule, go to cspan.org. >>> next on history book shelf, author james chace talks about his book. "1912: wilson. roosevelt, taft and debs -- the election that changed the country". describes the personalities and relationships between woodrow wilson, theodore roosevelt, william howard taft and eugene debs. >> welcome to viewers on c-span's book tv. james chace's new book, "1912: wilson. roosevelt, taft and debs -- the election that changed the country". it has just been published by simon and schuster. woodrow wilson center is the memorial to our 28th president. created in 1968 by an act of congress within the smithsonian institution. because woodrow wilson headed princeton university before becoming president the center memorializes his legacy as a bridge between the worlds of aca

the last businessman in 1940, wendell willky. but my favorite one is 1964. was a stop goldwater movement, which looks exactly like the never trump movement, and it was equally successful. at the end of it, richard nixon said to pat buchanan, if there's ever a stop x movement, you always -- nixon was first against goldwater but then was for him. >> define the importance of these debates in this season. they're always relatively important, right? but is it specially important this time around? >> it depends. if it's still true that there's about 20% of the people that are sloshing around that we've seen in these polls, then those people are going to be looking for who's the most presidential. if it's also true that what the trump campaign says, which is the key test is whether donald trump can occupy the presidency, whether people are willing to hand over the office to him, or is he too risky? the debates can help him. they're actually a chance for donald trump to show, i can perform in this context. it's a context that people think of when they look at the de

he had led on the first three ballots in 1940 before losing to wendell willkie. quite remarkable, because this year, 1948, he's only 46 years old. now, that's about the age that obama was. that's only three years older than jack kennedy was. he's a young man. and he's been on the verge of power and national notoriety even before that 1940. what is he in 1940? he's an ex-district attorney. he's not even governor. he was the district attorney of manhattan. he was mr. district attorney, crime-buster, the guy who went after the mob, put them in jail, went after the wall street guys, put them in jail. he did it all. he was spectacular as a district attorney. but as governor, he begins to trim his sails. he's looking at the polls, and as a candidate, it's the same way. so, people, even though he's the purported front-runner and he's the front-runner in terms of delegates at this point, he's not particularly loved in the party or among the population. but in this debate, he is the former district attorney. he's a great prosecutor. he's great with a jury. stassen was a p

he had led on the first three ballots in 1940 before losing to wendell willkie, wilkie quite remarkable because this year he is only 46 years old. that is about the age obama was. that is only 3 years older than jack kennedy was. he is a young man. and he has been on the verge of power and national notoriety even before the 1940. he is in asked district attorney. he is not even governor. he was the district attorney of manhattan. he was mr. district attorney, crime buster, the guy who went after the mob, put him in jail and went after the wall street guy, put them in jail. he did it all. he was spectacular as the district attorney but as governor he begins to trim his sails. he is looking at the polls and the candidate the same way. even though he is the purported front-runner and he is the front-runner in terms of delegates at this point, he is not particularly loved in the party or among the population but in this debate, he is the former district attorney. he is a great prosecutor. stassen was a prosecutor too but evidently the prosecutors in manhattan have to be tougher than the pro

the democratic nominee, al smith and sunday, the 1940 republican nominee, wendell willkie. store windows had pictures of my opponent and his associate on the new deal ticket. i don't know of any more appropriate place to put those pictures. >>> for a complete american history tv schedule, go to c-span.org. next, columbia university history professor eric foner discusses the rise of socialism in america in the early 20th century. and the socialist party of america presidential campaigns of eugene debbs, this class is an hour and ten minutes. >> this is a class at columbia university, a course called "the american radical tradition," and we started with the american revolution and have been going through the abolitionist movement, early femininism, the civil war reconstruction, labor conflict in the gilded age, the populist movement and now we're sort of entering into the 20th century and in the next couple of weeks, we will look at the progressive era, a period of, you know, a lot of labor unrest, the industrial workers of the world, the women's suffrage movement coming to t

and sunday, the 1940 republican presidential nominee wendell willkie. >> as i was driving up the streets his vacant store window, had pictures of my opponent and his associates on t the new deal ticket. i don't know of anymore appropriate place to put those pictures. >> for a complete american history tv schedule, go to cspan.org. >>> next on history book shelf, author james chace talks about his book. "1912: wilson. roosevelt, taft and debs -- the election that changed the country". describes the personalities and

nominee and former new york governor al smith, and sunday, the 1940 republican presidential nominee wendell willkie. >> as i was driving up the streets of hoboken, practically every store window, vacant store window has pictures of my opponent and his associates on the new deal ticket. i don't know of any more appropriate place to put those pictures. >> for a complete american history tv schedule, go to cspan.org. >> on saturday, c-span's issue spotlight looks at police and race relations. we'll show you president obama at the memorial service for police officers killed in dallas. a speech by senator tim scott about his own interactions with the police. in washington, d.c., police chief cathy lanier describing her agency's community policing. here's a preview. >> in the course of one year, i've been stopped seven times by law enforcement officers. not four. not five. not six. but seven times. in one year as an elected official. was i speeding sometimes? sure. but the vast majority of the time, i was pulled over for nothing more than driving a new car in the wrong neighborhood, or some other reason