some of the speakers spoke about is that the mayor had told former retirement commissioner wendy paskin jordan that if she met with us and had support from members of the board of supervisors, then the mayor would reappoint her to the board. ms. paskin jordan came and met with many of us. i immediately hit it off with her. i was incredibly impressed. and then, i guess the mayor decided to change that position. despite the fact that ms. paskin jordan had gotten the support of myself and many colleagues, and instead appointed mr. helfun. that's the mayor's prerogative. but i think that rubbed many people who had been very impressed with her performance on the retirement board in the wrong way. and, unfortunately, i wish it hadn't been handled in that manner. now, having said that, this is the mayor's appointee, and i had a chance to meet with mr. helfun, and his commitment to divesting in fossel fuels and to social and government issues, is very clear. he stated unequivocally that those are priorities. i want to mention that pension investments are confusing because -- for me, right? because the