wendy sherman is also a hillary clinton support somewhere very involved in cutting the iran deal.ee you. >> good to be with you. >> let me start big picture here. give us -- there is an initial nuclear posture the tcountry ha, what is it. >> it's interesting as secretary clinton said, we see donald trump ad-libbing about nuclear weapons the same time president obama, secretary moniz meeting with 50 leaders, trying to reduce the stockpile of weaponser reduce the amount of material gotten by a terrorist, secure borders with radioactive detectors doing all of the things we need to do. we have nuclear weapons as a deterrent. we don't have a policy where we're going to go out and offensively use nuclear weapons. we use them in response, if needed. but it's a deterrence. and one of the reasons president obama got the nobel peace prize, he hopes, make not in his life, we get to zero nuclear weapons. >> donald trump criticized for being too off the cuff on the nuclear thing. isn't it the posture of any president who always says i'm never going to take anything off the table? i mean, in fa

froze nuclear can be the diplomatic efforts by secretary kerry as well as former undersecretary wendy sherman with the support of the department of state treasury and energy in our international partners we should try to comprehensive engagement to cut off pathways of nuclear weapons and the threat of further destabilization. the goal of sanctions is to pressure bad actors to change their policy. they must be prepared to guide relief. if the follow-through we follow-through we undermine her credibility and damage our ability to sanctions should drive policy change. the experience with iran demonstrate that difficult this can be, essential as it is very to achieve its goal of lifting sanctions, iran had to accept a comprehensive nuclear deal is to help achieve on change in iran calculation and that in and give coupled with tough print above diplomacy worked. if tehran cap defended the deal, the responsibility to uphold ours. this reason it is vitally important in vitally important indentation debris lifted the sanctions that profit to provide guidance to make clear where congress can resume. t

i believe then undersecretary wendy sherman and others went over and met with the iaea, and then they came back and briefed me out on it, but i didn't feel it was imperative at that point. >> and you feel comfortable stating that there's unprecedented iaea monitoring and surveillance and verification measurements -- >> with one caveat. >> okay. >> there is unprecedented allowance for that full measure of intrusive oversight and access. the key now would be to plus up the iaea budget. we have the license for 130 or so additional inspectors to be permanently in iran. there's a permanent office in iran, but the iea is going to need resourcing to meet this. now, we've always banked on the fact that's got to happen and it will happen, but i just want to signal that that is an imperative component of this. >> i'm concerned when there are reports that start coming out that says that the iranians collect their own soil samples, that the iranians inspect some of their own nuclear sites, and we have this opportunity to have the secretary here in front of the committee and these very concerning

this debate last week on the west coast with one of the -- who by the way is a great diplomat, wendy sherman, we just passionately disagree on the arrangement of the deal. willesponse was, we reclassify those contracts. i know some lawyers in the room. somebody help me through that. the deal says one thing. they want to reclassify them. with luck with that. part of my fear is that we lost leverage to contain them, which is why they stepped up their missile program. they have weaponization, enrichment, and missiles. they just ramped up their missile testing very clearly. they get to have an enrichment program now. it is legitimized. any centrifuges spinning at one time. went, you can do this through computer modeling in a way that you don't have to have the trigger test. you still want to do that at some point, but you can go a long way under weaponization. if that was our goal, i think we missed. i don't see a way now to get it back. what we have to do is continue to put pressure. the next president says he's going to rip it up. that is not realistic. yes sir. >> do we have enough informatio

tremendous diplomatic efforts led by secretaries kerry and mow knees, as well as former undersecretary wendy sherman with the support of teams from the departments of state, treasury and energy and our international partners, we secured a comprehensive arrangement to cut off all of iran's pathways to a nuclear weapon, removing a serious threat from a region that cannot afford further destabilization. another lesson we've learned is that since the goal of sanctions is to pressure bad actors to change their policy, we must be prepared to provide relief from sanctions when we succeed. if we fail to follow through, we undermine our own credibility and damage our ability to use sanctions to drive policy change. the experience with iran demonstrates how difficult this can be, essential as it is. to achieve its goal of lifting sanctions, iran had to accept a comprehensive nuclear deal, lifting nuclear sanctions was an incentive we established to help achieve this profound change in iran's calculations and that incentive coupled with tough principled diplomacy worked. since iran has kept its end of the deal

. >> undersecretary of state for political affairs wendy sherman. we agree on implementation day in january speaker paul davis ryan noted, quote, the president himself has acknowledged iran is likely to use this cash infusion, more than $100 billion in total, to finance terrorists, end of quote. this is exactly why a bipartisan majority of the house voted to reject the nuclear deal. sanctions should be only lifted when iran ceases its litany of illicit activities and ends its support for terrorism. until that day comes we should not be comply sit in fueling a regime that has a long history of hostility towards the united states and its allies. with thoughtful opposition to the iran deal, i believe iran promotes attacks on american families with its pledge of death to america and death to israel as proven by the intercontinental ballistic missile development as cited by chairman royce and congressman deutsche. secretary kerry, in response to questions, what i heard you say administration wants to let the iran sanctions act expire. the administration

under secretary of state for political affairs wendy sherman. agree on implementation day, quote, the president himself acknowledged iran is likely to use this cash infusion more than $100 billion in total, to fund terrorism. end of quote. that why the house voted to reject the nuclear deal. sanctions should be only lifted when iran ceases litany of illicit activity and end support for terrorism. until that day comes we should not be complicit in fuelling a regime that has a long history of hostility toward the united states and its allies. i'm particularly grateful for the bipartisan contract of this committee with chairman ed weiss and ellioiot engel. i believe iran promotes attacks on american families with its pledge of death it america and death to israel. secretary keri, from your responses to chairman royce's questions, what i heard you say is the administration wants to let the iran sanctions act expire. the administration em tending it through the international emergency economic powers object is simply a power grab. allowing isa too ex

week on the west coast with one of the -- who, by did way, a great diplomat and very smart -- wendy sherman. we passionately disagree on the arrangement and the deal. the response was, well, we will reclassify those contracts. i don't know about this. i know there's lawyers in the room. somebody want to step me through this? the deal says one thing. they want to reclassify them. good luck with that. it's not going to happen. so part of my fear is that we have just lost all the leverage to try to contain them and why they stepped up the missile program. three parts of a nuclear program. they have weaponization. enrichment. and missiles. they just ramped up the missile testing very clearly. they get to have an enrichment program now. it's legislate tized and i think they have whatever it was? 5,000 centrifuges spinning at any one time. you can do this through computer models in a way you don't have to have the trigger point. you can go a long way under weaponization. my argument is if that was our goal then we swung and missed. i don't see a way now to get it back. what we will have to do is