>> you, wendy walsh. >> okay.hink to some degree it is but i think the internet provides people this illusion of privacy. it provides them with a lot of opportunity to have these text relationships with people. and this weird illusion that it's just a private relationship. people forget that it is set in stone forever. and while of course you have to have a good degree of mars schi narcissism just to get the job he's in, maybe that's a piece of it. >> dana bash, i want you to respond first. we hear of all this high profile men in politics, scandals. hardly any female lawmaker. there was a recent article "new york times" in the. they talk about how women have different reasons for running. quote, women run for office to do something. men run for office to be somebody. dana bash, what has the reaction been among female -- among congresswoman with regard to this scandal that's erupted? >> reporter: well, it's very interesting. first of all, i will tell you that somebody asked me over the weekend, brooke, about the fa

none of. >> thanks to holly, wendy walsh,

wendy walsh has experts fopinions for. down to fight or flight. >> he's going to go into a natural fight or flight response. i prefer fight, close your facebook, twitter, go away. but instead, he went with fight. no, i didn't do it. no, it was a hacker. yes, i'm going to keep my job. one or the other is going to come up in the shortterm. and then they'll make better decisions. >> just today, a source says weiner told democratics leaders that he's going to seek treatment. here is what he said about getting help at a news conference earlier this week. >> i'm going to try to handle this, and i'm not blaming anyone. this is not something that can be treated in a way. this is my own personal mistake. this is not something, this is a weakness, a deep weakness i have demonstratored. and for that, i apologize. >> okay, here's what he said just recently, wndy. he's going to take a leave of absence, he says, to get evaluated and to map out treatment to get his life in order, to get well. and he says he's going to seek treatment to f

wendy walsh is in l.a., a human behavior expert. jim clemente in l.a. special agent and adviser. drew is from orlando, he's a reporter for wdbo radio and leonard pitts, washington, syndicated columnist and winner of a pulitzer prize for commentary. drew, i don't know if you have had a chance to witness any of this, but is it that sort of behavior -- obviously the judge does not allow that to happen in court. >> people have been very well-behaved inside the courtroom but what we've learned for this trial is there's an intense interest on exactly what is happening inside the courtroom. the arguments back and forth between lawyers. in fact, we've seen one by one the local tv stations go wall to wall and broadcast the entire proceedings that happen, but there have been no outbursts in court. the judge, judge perry, runs a very tight ship inside the courtroom and promised anyone that does any outbursts about 180 days in jail. so people have been well-behaved inside. there's an intense interest though on this case here. >> former fbi special agent jim clement

let me bring in our expert, a family therapist, and expert on human behavior wendy walsh.he break, i tweeted, what anthony weiner admitted to doing, does that constitute cheating? it is yes, yes, yes, and that sup to the wife, and we have to redesign cheating because of technology now. given all of that, was it cheating, wendy? >> i bet a man said that, we should redefine it now that we can get off with the keyboard. cheating is lying and betraying your spouse. you have a covenant. if the it is something that you would do in front of your spouse with your spouse's consent then it is not cheating, but clearly, and i read one of the very long facebook streams, conservation streams with the woman from las vegas that he had and online relationship with, and it was very graphic sexual encounters, but also the words, i have tom can to vegas, and i have to really do this to you, and her saying, yes, come on, baby, so this is foreplay for an affair as far as i'm concerned. >> and it is interesting that for your clients you see everyday those who have cheated or cheated upon, the l

wendy walsh is in los angeles a human behavior expert.etired fbi special agent and advisor/writer for "criminal minds." leonard pits, syndicated columnist for "the miami herald". drew, is he a creditable witness on the stands when you saw him? >> are you talking about her friend? you know the prosecution really rolled out a parade of her friends in the beginning of this trial and all of them really had the same message that casey anthony had no signs that anything was wrong during that month that her daughter hadn't been seen. she was going out to bars, partying, sleep over, renting movies with her boyfriend. so, going to a fourth of july celebration. not letting on that anything was wrong. that's what the defense theory is she was so sexually abused so, physically and mentally abused that she stashes her pain deep back in the back of her head and can act like servicing okay. >> tim clemente. >> in my opinion, that behavior is something completely different. what it actually is is that she's in a position where finally she's free. she has

wendy walsh.efore we get to that, is this the way most people talk, especially most guys but we just aren't privy to the conversation? >> i think this is just guy talk. look, studies show that while men are initially visually stimulated by women, those who want to settle down of course look for kind and intelligent women. but they don't say, the flight attendants on this flight look so kind and intelligent. they say, are they doable or not? are they hot or not. it's just guys playing but inappropriate in the workplace. >> so you don't think there's anything wrong with it? he shouldn't have been saying it in the workplace, but he wasn't doing anything wrong? >> the only thing wrong is that he was saying while he was flying a plane that i could have been a passenger on. as they say, men are born with two says, but not enough blood to serve both of them at the same time? so i want him using his head when he's working. >> the control room was three floors down and i could hear the screaming from here.

wendi walsh is in l.a. she is a human behavior expert. jim cle meanty is in l.a.ired fbi amgant. drew petremoeaux is from wbdo radio and jim pits be winning the pulitzer prize for commentary. drew, i don't know if you have been able to witness any of this. but obviously the judge does not allow that to happen in court. >> people have been very well behaved inside the courtroom but what we have learned in this trial is that there is an intense interest on what is happening inside the courtroom. arguments back and forth between lawyers. we have seen the local tv stations go wall to wall and broadcast the entire precedings that happened. there have been no outbursts in court. judge perry runes a very tight ship inside the courtroom and promised anyone that does any outbursts about 180 days in jail. people have been well behaved inside. there is an intense interest on this case here. >> former fbi special interest, jim clemente, what is the fascination with this? do you find anything different with this particular trial. >> i've worked literally hundreds of child abdu

wendy walsh next. >>> when it comes down to it, what kids learn at home is just as important as whatlearn in school. that was true in the case of chris gardner, whose best selling book was made into a hit movie. our christine romans has his story in tonight's edition of "smart is the new rich". >> don't ever let somebody tell you you can't do something. >> you'll recognize him as the character played by will smith in "the picture suit of happyness." it was based on his best selling book of the same age. but chris gardner did not rest on his laurels. every stay he's hoping to pass on what he's learned. >> you know what? i learned so much about money from my mom who often said, son, i have done so much with little for so long that i could do anything with nothing. and it wasn't just -- it wasn't just catchy that she said, i got to see her do it. >> and that also means learning to manager expectations. >> i think one of the most important things that i have taught both of my children about money is that more money, more problems. just because you do acquire money does not mean that you'

wendy walsh has to say something about this. the thing, my quick answer was, boys have one part. girls have another. and that's the quick answer. >> it's the quick answer, don. remember, what we're talking about are two different c constructs. one is biology, one is gender. a big piece is cultural. there's a biological link. the problem i have with this, i have no problem with somebody exposing their kids to a whole range of gender stimulus or gender oriented toys and letting them choose what they want to play with, if a boy want to do b ballet, great, but to deny gender creates shame. now you're creating sosort of a third gender, an androgynous child, they're not science proje projects. they're our children, and they're growing up in our culture. >> you have to assimilate. you have to get along and move through culture. they said their chose was based on extensive research. my question is, he or she has two older brothers. the two older brothers, they're going to let storm know what sex he he or she is. so what if they choose t

wendy walsh. wendy, i'm sure you've heard of george rekers and the work that he did.ow, my initial thought is that, you know, the american public thinks, don, you're either gate or you're straight. when the research clearly shows that most of us lie on a continuum somewhere, both in fantasy and behavior, that's a scale. it was called 1-6 so i would think if this therapy had any positive results, it was probably because he was taking bisexual people and suppressing the homosexual part of their inclination. so he could probably try to ride on that for a while, but i'm so disturbed to think that he would try to treat children when sexual orientation isn't even clear at 5 years old, led alone gender identity. it just seems like it's not the developmental window to even begin to deal with this, and so inappropriate and so damaging. let me get this straight. in the psychology community, is there any support for this kind of therapy, dr. wendy? >> i wouldn't think so. i mean, the psychiatric association clearly does not endorse anything he does. there is no support. i mean,

>> well, wendy walsh was on fire yesterday. it was comments about anthony weiner's scandal.re sexting, but did you know it has a potential to ruin some young folks' lives? we will speak to one congressman who wants to change that and his reproposal. >> can you guess what the new issue is on voters' minds? what's this option? that's new. personal pricing now on brakes. tell us what you want to pay. we do our best to make that work. deal! my money. my choice. my meineke. >>> listen to this quote, and really could be the understatement of the day here. quote, representative weiner has some problems, end quote. we will show you who said that here in a moment. but first, look at the statement that prompted that. here we go. lying publicly about something like this is unforgivable and he should resign is what former democratic national committee member tim kaine tells a virginia radio station. he is the late toast call for congressman weiner to quit in what amounts to a sexting scandal and now the quote that could be the understatement of the day, and a number two man in the senat

thanks to holly, thanks to wendy walsh, thanks to jim clement e, drew, and also leonard pitts. very interesting discussion. i appreciate you all joining us. i'm don lemon in the cnn world headquarters in atlanta. thanks for joining me tonight. i'll see >>> in italy a british exchange student raped and murdered in her room. >> it was horrible. the young lady bled to death. >> amanda knox, her american roommate is charged with the crime. >> my husband called me and said they have arrested amanda. >> a media frenzy with tales of cover-up and sex games turned deadly all centered around the beautiful young student dubbed foxy knoxy by the tabloids. now amanda knox sits in this italian prison convicted of murder abroad. amanda knox was going into her junior year of college. her mother eda calls amanda the fresh-faced 20-year-old intent on adventure. >>> amanda knox was going into her junior year of college. her mother eda calls amanda the fresh-faced 20-year-old intent on adventure. >> she was going to study abroad going into college somewhere. she didn't know where yet. >> amanda wo

wendy walsh. and of course we're talking about this, weiner's pickle, little weiner in the oven. want to talk to you about nascar, was that the biggest rush ever? >> better than water skiing, better than being on a speedboat, the rush of being on a jet, any of that. no wonder why i had dust particles in my teeth because i could not stop smiling. i love this. love this. >> that is awesome, i think i'm going to jet ski, but i think i'm doing something better than that, but it's awesome. >> we're going to talk face to face with jason leffler and got a chance to talk to him about his live. up to you, don lemon top of the hour. newsroom. shop from anywhere. shop from anywhere. and are always connected. we live in a social world. isn't it time we had a social currency to match? membership rewards points from american express. use them to get the things you love from amazon.com, ticketmaster.com, and more unexpected places. they're a social currency with endless possibilities. a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actu

. >> human behavior expert, wendy walsh, they are coddling her.. >> they are coddling her because this is a fused family because they can't remember whose problem is who's, but watching her listen to the recordings of those jailhouse phone calls, i see her eyes darting in a way that those she's analyzing. what did i say, something to incriminate myself? not a grieving mother going oh, my goodness i don't want a replay of this awful tragedy that happened to me, it's like how do i get myself off? >> yeah, i agree. i think she's doing everything she can to sort of think in the moment. she's not recounting something that happened before, but she's creating right at that time to try to set story to her parents. >> you say it's almost like the usual suspects. >> that's exactly what it is, don, because what shae's done i take little bits of reality like jeffrey hopkins, a kid she went to grade school with. he takes the stand, supposedly the one who introduced her to zenaida, his girlfriend at one time and his littleson zachary was baby-sat by her and he

wendy walsh. and joining us from boston, dr. terry real.ceived. it says, unfortunately, this is a sign of the times. this will be an ongoing issue with technology the way it is now. sad. how do you respond to that? >> absolutely. it is the beginning of it. it's a new frontier. when it's a new frontier, we have to make new rules, right? in the beginning, it seems to be the wild, wild west, and a free-for-all with no boundaries. if your brain is getting a sexual charge out of it. it's not anonymous porn. it's not like taking a sexual feeling and putting it into your relationship. this is another human being at the other end of that text. that's a relationship. sorry. that's a relationship. >> that's what people are saying. a relationship is a relationship, whether you touch the person or not. >> i think that's true. i think this is an affair. we talk about emotional affairs. it has all of the damage that a physical affair has, without the physicality. >> another thing people are asking, terry, why did he do it? he's a powerful man. has a beau