so just a few words, a short roll-in from professor wendy wright. >> i think people are most familiar with figures like teresa of ahumada, some of the great - john of the cross, these great carmelite mystics of the tradition whose writings, especially as they attempt to describe the interior experience of this intimacy and these various dimensions - in other words, they talk about an interior path, an interior castle, or a process of going - the intimacy with god, and the writings of these peoples have been very influential. people have responded to them because spiritual journey is not only exterior and not only has to do with ideas and who they're with, but it also has to do with a growing sense of - again, that gathering of one's own energies around the focal point of god, and that those are - in the christian tradition, it's often said that there are primitive movements. in other words, there's a way in which you make space in yourself through those disciplines, through prayer or whatever, and then god's own energy, god's own light that is illuminate you as move farther into the e

i think we're almost back to like in the previous class with wendy wright talking about music in the christian context. here in the hindu context, it's a need to evoke the spiritual, to bring - to create an atmosphere, like gregorian chant, which they will do at the monasteries; like we mentioned, it's beautiful. yeah, susanna? >> [inaudible], which is in - from france, and it was i think roman catholic priests or whoever started it, but it is quite, interfaith also. >> the swiss, 1947, i think. yes. >> yes, and it's all very repetitive, and the point of it is to bring one closer to god - >> yeah, you see the connection. we move from mystics and meditation into hinduism, and shortly, we'll be looking at buddhism also, which follows along nicely. but we're looking at ways of transforming our ordinary, everyday sense of self experientially, which kind of - like the farmer out in the field prepares the ground for planting, you have to have the right kind of soil, the right kind of preparation in order for religious feelings and for the other dimensions to grow. >> i went to a taize serv