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kpix 5 reporter elizabeth wenger is at the scene of a deadly house fire. elizabeth, you just got new information about the toddler killed in the fire? >> reporter: we have confirmed that the toddler was a baby girl. 2.5 years old. in addition what makes this so sad is that it sounds like this family was doing everything right. the fire chief confirms that they had working smoke detectors when the fire broke out. the smoke detectors went off. and still two people weren't able to make it out alive. as you mentioned that 2.5-year- old girl and her father were both killed. the mother was able to get out the back door. she is okay. the grandfather is in the hospital right now. he is in critical condition. so the fire broke out around 1:30 this morning. firefighters arrived here in the sunset district 18th avenue near pacheco. they saw lots of smoke. firefighters believed the fire started on the ground level where the dad was sleeping. he was down there in an in-law unit. the mom smelled smoke and that's when she went downstairs discovered there was a for and sh
kpix 5 reporter elizabeth wenger is at the scene of a deadly house fire. elizabeth, you just got new information about the toddler killed in the fire? >> reporter: we have confirmed that the toddler was a baby girl. 2.5 years old. in addition what makes this so sad is that it sounds like this family was doing everything right. the fire chief confirms that they had working smoke detectors when the fire broke out. the smoke detectors went off. and still two people weren't able to make it...
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53 llega el segundo tanto con andrew wenger para la victoria de los canadienses. pero los guateltecos se mantienen en el primer lugar del grupo 5. en el estadio azul de mexico, la maquina cementera del cruz azul supero ampliamente 3-0 al valencia de haiti con anotaciones de anchille emana en tres oportunidades a los 6, 31 y 75 minutos de juego, con este resultado cruz azul pasa al primer lugar del grupo 3 on 9 puntos, superando a herediano de costa rica con 6 puntos. cerro la jornada en tegucigalpa honduras, donde olimpia con dificultad derroto por la minima diferencia de 1-0 al real esteli de nicaragua, el unico gol fue anotado por anthony lozano a los 67 minutos. con este triunfo olimpia es segundo del grupo 2 con 6 puntos uno menos que el lider sporting. para hoy, houston dynamo recibe al west connection, comunicacion es al caledonia y cartagines al galaxy de los angeles. en las grandes ligas, los dos
53 llega el segundo tanto con andrew wenger para la victoria de los canadienses. pero los guateltecos se mantienen en el primer lugar del grupo 5. en el estadio azul de mexico, la maquina cementera del cruz azul supero ampliamente 3-0 al valencia de haiti con anotaciones de anchille emana en tres oportunidades a los 6, 31 y 75 minutos de juego, con este resultado cruz azul pasa al primer lugar del grupo 3 on 9 puntos, superando a herediano de costa rica con 6 puntos. cerro la jornada en...
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elizabeth wenger is at the evacuation center in clayton. but we begin with cate caugiran, who just spoke to fire officials. cate, what's the latest. >> reporter: michelle, we understand the first air tankers will be going up in the next couple of hours because the fire right now is growing towards the summit. we can actually see it peaking right now. maybe it's just a glow but we've seen flares come up over the mountain just basically in waves as it comes up and down now. this morning, more families are waking up unsure of the safeties of their homes. the -- the safety of their homes. the sheriff says 23 more homes were evacuated making it 100 homes in total. the fire is up to 1500, a of the cal fire says it's 10% contained with one minor injury to a firefighter. cal fire will be bringing in more firefighters so we are expecting about 500 on the line today. this is one of cal fire's highest priorities. the morgan fire was first reported yesterday afternoon off of morgan fire territory road right around 1:30 and immediately, mandatory evacua
elizabeth wenger is at the evacuation center in clayton. but we begin with cate caugiran, who just spoke to fire officials. cate, what's the latest. >> reporter: michelle, we understand the first air tankers will be going up in the next couple of hours because the fire right now is growing towards the summit. we can actually see it peaking right now. maybe it's just a glow but we've seen flares come up over the mountain just basically in waves as it comes up and down now. this morning,...
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kpix 5's elizabeth wenger has more. i know you just got an update from the police. what did they say? >> reporter: yeah, we literally just got out of this press conference. so this was a case of giants- dodgers rivalry. excuse me. giants, dodgers rivalry. kind of a reverse of the bryan stow case where of course he was severely hurt, a giants fan down at dodger stadium. so this was a similar thing that happened out here pretty close to at&t park. so i want to show you some exclusive video. we just got this. this is as investigators walked out of the police department with evidence from that stabbing. you will notice a giants hat in there. chief suhr was able to confirm that the suspect one of the suspects was wearing that giants hat. also, local neighbors in southern california were able to confirm that the victim, 24- year-old jonathan denver, this is his mugshot. this is taken several months ago. this is when he got a dui. we still don't know exactly where that victim, where mr. denver is from. but police have confirmed that he was killed. there are four suspects.
kpix 5's elizabeth wenger has more. i know you just got an update from the police. what did they say? >> reporter: yeah, we literally just got out of this press conference. so this was a case of giants- dodgers rivalry. excuse me. giants, dodgers rivalry. kind of a reverse of the bryan stow case where of course he was severely hurt, a giants fan down at dodger stadium. so this was a similar thing that happened out here pretty close to at&t park. so i want to show you some exclusive...
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kpix 5's elizabeth wenger talked to neighbors who described smoke, fire and the efforts of emergency crews to get into that burning home. >> this is a neighborhood that looks after one another. so we feel really, really sad about this. >> reporter: that's why howard simon dropped off flowers this morning on his neighbor's burned-out front stoop. a fire killed a father and his 2.5-year-old daughter this morning. the medical examiner identified them as raymond and khloe shea. >> had a lot of flame and a huge amount of smoke. and really dark billowing smoke. >> we're all in shock, total horror. everybody was just standing around the corner, and it was surreal. >> reporter: the two-alarm fire broke out around 1:30 a.m. on the 1900 block of 18th avenue near pacheco. in addition to the father and toddler, a grandfather was also living at the moment. he is in very critical condition. a fourth person, the mother, was able to get out a back door and should be okay. firefighters say she works late and was likely the only person still awake when the fire broke out. >> everyone is hurting this m
kpix 5's elizabeth wenger talked to neighbors who described smoke, fire and the efforts of emergency crews to get into that burning home. >> this is a neighborhood that looks after one another. so we feel really, really sad about this. >> reporter: that's why howard simon dropped off flowers this morning on his neighbor's burned-out front stoop. a fire killed a father and his 2.5-year-old daughter this morning. the medical examiner identified them as raymond and khloe shea. >>...
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kpix 5's elizabeth wenger on the evacuation centers keeping animals safe. >> reporter: as black smoke billows from near mount diablo, these horses eat their breakfast unaware of the danger threatening their homes. >> here they're happy. we call it a spa day. [ laughter ] >> this is a little bigger than they are used to. >> reporter: they board their horses on morgan territory road near the fireline. a half dozen horses were brought to this equestrian center in walnut creek. >> we are, you know, ready for quite a few more if the need arises. so hopefully it doesn't. >> reporter: and in crisis comes generosity. volunteers say this is a very tight-knit horse community around here. so when there was trouble, many stepped in to help offering their horse trailers and horse arenas. sharon says it was frightening as the flames and smoke got closer. what do those horses mean to you? >> oh, -- sorry. [ pause ] >> uhm, they're just part of the family. [ crying ] >> reporter: a horse owner himself, bob beck volunteered to spend the nice outside the stables just in case someone sought safer ground
kpix 5's elizabeth wenger on the evacuation centers keeping animals safe. >> reporter: as black smoke billows from near mount diablo, these horses eat their breakfast unaware of the danger threatening their homes. >> here they're happy. we call it a spa day. [ laughter ] >> this is a little bigger than they are used to. >> reporter: they board their horses on morgan territory road near the fireline. a half dozen horses were brought to this equestrian center in walnut...
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. >>> kpix 5's elizabeth wenger is following some breaking news right now in san francisco. a father and his 2.5-year-old child have died in a house fire. elizabeth, what's the latest? >> reporter: fire crews are continuing their investigation. streets are closed at 18th right around the 1900 block of 18th avenue. so as you said, we have confirmed a 2.5-year-old toddler was killed, the father was also killed. the mother was able to get out okay and the grandfather right now in critical condition. this is video after the fire broke out at 1:30 a.m. this is 18th avenue near pacheco. firefighters saw smoke coming from the second floor when they arrived. firefighters believe the fire started on the ground level where the father was sleeping. there's an in-law unit down there. the mom smelled smoke. she came downstairs and that's when she discovered the house was on fire. firefighters had a tough time fighting this. there's a metal security gate. they had to breakthrough that. there are double paned windows that kept the smoke in. two people died including a toddler. one person i
. >>> kpix 5's elizabeth wenger is following some breaking news right now in san francisco. a father and his 2.5-year-old child have died in a house fire. elizabeth, what's the latest? >> reporter: fire crews are continuing their investigation. streets are closed at 18th right around the 1900 block of 18th avenue. so as you said, we have confirmed a 2.5-year-old toddler was killed, the father was also killed. the mother was able to get out okay and the grandfather right now in...
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elizabeth wenger live in san francisco, thank you.hrew each other in the water for a final victory swim. >>> 6:33. happening today secretary of state john kerry and his iranian counterpart will meet at the united nations. today's meeting would be the highest level direct u.s. and iranian meeting since 1979. this comes as russia agrees to three basic points on a possible resolution on syria. first, to hold syria accountable for attacks on august 21. the second, measures against syria if it uses chemical weapons. and third, the council will expedite their discussion of the matter. this comes just a day after the president addressed the united nations. >> the syrian government took a first step by giving an accounting of its stockpiles. now there must be a strong security council resolution to verify that the assad government is keeping its commitments and there must be consequences if they fail to. >> the resolution would not authorize though an automatic use of force if syria violates any of it. >>> fbi is releasing some chilling new s
elizabeth wenger live in san francisco, thank you.hrew each other in the water for a final victory swim. >>> 6:33. happening today secretary of state john kerry and his iranian counterpart will meet at the united nations. today's meeting would be the highest level direct u.s. and iranian meeting since 1979. this comes as russia agrees to three basic points on a possible resolution on syria. first, to hold syria accountable for attacks on august 21. the second, measures against syria if...
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kpix 5 reporter elizabeth wenger is at america's cup headquarters here in san francisco.here's now talk of the bay area doing it all over again in four years. why not, right? >> reporter: i know. can you believe it? yeah. there's people on both sides of that, by the way. right now, the focus is on tearing all this down. they wasted no time before the race was over tearing down the grandstand. a truck just took out the porta- potties even though we still have the fancy yachts even larry ellison's behind me on pier 27. of course the america's cup was not without controversy. we mostly heard about the wind delays, the underwhelming crowds and the race lacking in drama. so would san francisco and oracle's ceo larry ellison who bankrolled much of it push to host it here ever again? some folks think it came with too high a price tag and the city didn't see the huge economic boost. and just four not the estimated 15 boats participated. but everything looked a whole lot better in the end as of course the home team won. so we asked the man himself larry ellison how did he do it? h
kpix 5 reporter elizabeth wenger is at america's cup headquarters here in san francisco.here's now talk of the bay area doing it all over again in four years. why not, right? >> reporter: i know. can you believe it? yeah. there's people on both sides of that, by the way. right now, the focus is on tearing all this down. they wasted no time before the race was over tearing down the grandstand. a truck just took out the porta- potties even though we still have the fancy yachts even larry...
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kpix 5 reporter elizabeth wenger reports from the fairgrounds in antioch. >> reporter: so far no animals have been brought to the fairgrounds but i talk to the organizer. they are saying they could see some by later on this morning. this is a country area so a lot of people have horses, cattle, sheep, goats, pigs, you name it and this fairgrounds is equipped to handle large and small animals. so as you mentioned about 75 homes, 75 families, have been evacuated because of the fire and smoke. additional evacuations came overnight. trail ride russelman park, east trail, upper trail and lower trail roads. since yesterday evacuations along oak hill lane, curry canyon road and the curry point area. so far only a handful of families is using the evacuation center at clayton library. evacuees we talked to say the fire was close but they are hopeful firefighters will gain the upper hand soon. >> we didn't see any flames. we saw a lot of smoke. we are thinking, you know, it's -- we were told about a quarter mile away. now, that seems a little close if the wind changes, it could be dangerous. but,
kpix 5 reporter elizabeth wenger reports from the fairgrounds in antioch. >> reporter: so far no animals have been brought to the fairgrounds but i talk to the organizer. they are saying they could see some by later on this morning. this is a country area so a lot of people have horses, cattle, sheep, goats, pigs, you name it and this fairgrounds is equipped to handle large and small animals. so as you mentioned about 75 homes, 75 families, have been evacuated because of the fire and...
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kpix 5 reporter elizabeth wenger on the evacuation centers keeping the animals safe. >> reporter: asw billows from mount diablo, these horses eat their breakfast unaware of the danger threatening their homes. they are here and happy having a spa day. [ laughter ] >> this is bigger than they are used to. >> reporter: owners board their horses near the fireline. a half dozen horses were brought here to heather farms equestrian center in walnut creek. >> we are, you know, ready for quite a few more if the need arises so hopefully it doesn't. >> reporter: and in crisis comes generosity. volunteers say this is a very tight-knit horse community around here. so when there was trouble, many stepped in to help offering their horse trailers and horse arenas. sharon says it was frightening as the flames and smoke got closer. what do those horses mean to you? >> oh, -- sorry. [ pause ] >> uhm, they're part of the family. [ crying ] >> reporter: a horse owner himself, bob beck volunteered to spend a night in the trailer outside the horse stables just in case someone sought safer ground for their
kpix 5 reporter elizabeth wenger on the evacuation centers keeping the animals safe. >> reporter: asw billows from mount diablo, these horses eat their breakfast unaware of the danger threatening their homes. they are here and happy having a spa day. [ laughter ] >> this is bigger than they are used to. >> reporter: owners board their horses near the fireline. a half dozen horses were brought here to heather farms equestrian center in walnut creek. >> we are, you know,...
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both originated by elizabeth wenger. >> it's my birthday, that's right!aughter ] >>> let's go out live towards mobile5. we'll talk to brian kylie behind the wheel this morning and just right there on schedule he is heading towards the richmond/san rafael bridge. so thanks, brian, for that perfect timing as we see him going through the pay gate right now. the reason we sent him to the richmond/san rafael bridge is because there is a high wind advisory for the richmond/san rafael bridge, chp issued that early this morning. there's also one for the bay bridge and the san mateo bridge. so again, just be a little extra careful if you are starting your morning commute. let's go out live now towards our maps and other live traffic cameras. this is what it looks like right now approaching the dublin interchange. our sensors are still all in the green this morning if you are heading towards the dublin interchange. and westbound 580 through the altamont pass, just kind of your usual brake lights right now if you are passing 205 out of tracy. 15 minutes though so it
both originated by elizabeth wenger. >> it's my birthday, that's right!aughter ] >>> let's go out live towards mobile5. we'll talk to brian kylie behind the wheel this morning and just right there on schedule he is heading towards the richmond/san rafael bridge. so thanks, brian, for that perfect timing as we see him going through the pay gate right now. the reason we sent him to the richmond/san rafael bridge is because there is a high wind advisory for the richmond/san rafael...
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good afternoon, i'm elizabeth wenger. frank and michelle are both off. we'll get to that in just a minute. but first, we're watching some developing news. we now have 911 recordings of the shooting at the washington navy yard where 12 people were killed. >> we had a report on the fourth floor a male with a shotgun multiple shots fired, multiple people down. >> we have conflicting reports about the scene security. we're sorting it out now. >> and today two days after the massacre, the mother of shooter aaron alexis is speaking out. cbs reporter danielle nottingham has more on her emotional apology. >> reporter: aaron alexis's mother is speaking for the first time. in an audio statement, kathleen alexis said she doesn't know what drove her son to open fire on coworkers at the washington navy yard on monday. >> i'll never be able to ask him why. aaron is now in a place where he can no longer harm to anyone and for that i am glad. >> reporter: alexis had a history of mental health problems. a friend says he was sometimes depressed but never violent. >> it's
good afternoon, i'm elizabeth wenger. frank and michelle are both off. we'll get to that in just a minute. but first, we're watching some developing news. we now have 911 recordings of the shooting at the washington navy yard where 12 people were killed. >> we had a report on the fourth floor a male with a shotgun multiple shots fired, multiple people down. >> we have conflicting reports about the scene security. we're sorting it out now. >> and today two days after the...
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arsene wenger's team evening up. points wrapped up in the second half with a header. 3-1 the final score. >> it's positive. it's a good week for us. we won in marseilles, and sunderland. it was a positive week. >> manchester united were in action, blown away by manchester city. they were the winners. >> a few other results: >> in just a few minutes two teams that can dominate in world football can face each other in france. monacow with a game. psg spent around $452 million on new players since being taken over. some of those big signings swedish striker ibraminovic. he was the first. a brazilian costing $53.1 million, and $83 million for services of a striker. thanks to monaco's billionaire owner splashing out money. james rodrigues government $62 million, and a former colleague joining tore a fee of $33. -- for a fee of $33.4. $196 million on new players this year alone. here is one of those players. >> translation: we are aware that we haven't played together for a long time, that we are a team starting the season
arsene wenger's team evening up. points wrapped up in the second half with a header. 3-1 the final score. >> it's positive. it's a good week for us. we won in marseilles, and sunderland. it was a positive week. >> manchester united were in action, blown away by manchester city. they were the winners. >> a few other results: >> in just a few minutes two teams that can dominate in world football can face each other in france. monacow with a game. psg spent around $452...
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the character impersonators jennifer wenger and christopher dennis say they were attacked by a cowboyansient on hollywood boulevard. with the bruises to prove it. they were taping jimmy kimmel live when she wsays the attacke targeted her. >> with all of her boot throws. she hits wonder woman. i reflected it. ricochetted off my arm and hit her in the face. >> he means deflected it. but grammar is his crykryptonit. they were attacked by a cowboy boot wearing transient, narrows the suspects done to everyone walking on hollywood boulevard. right now we have superman and wonder woman standing by. hello there, hi, guys. thank you for joining us. first tell us in your word what happened? >> well, first i was coming in to check in, charging my phone at his place. she yelled at me on the way. so i went back to get my phone from his place. i saw her. i told him here is my friend. she got up. that's when she physically attacked me. he stepped in. and my superman. >> superman, very, very brave of you to step in. especially kiddiconsidering the that your muscles are made of foam rubber. >> think t
the character impersonators jennifer wenger and christopher dennis say they were attacked by a cowboyansient on hollywood boulevard. with the bruises to prove it. they were taping jimmy kimmel live when she wsays the attacke targeted her. >> with all of her boot throws. she hits wonder woman. i reflected it. ricochetted off my arm and hit her in the face. >> he means deflected it. but grammar is his crykryptonit. they were attacked by a cowboy boot wearing transient, narrows the...
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. >>> time to check the morning commute with elizabeth wenger. >> not a lot of big accidents but the metering lights are on at the bay bridge. mobile5, they are still on the bridge this morning. everything at the limit here but a different story behind the pay gates. they turned or not metering lights around 6:00 and we are already -- they turned on the metering lights around 6:00 and we are already seeing 10-minute backups to get on the bridge but moves well on the span. sand removal again this morning along the great highway. southbound lanes closed between sloat and skyline. bart on time 47 trains no delays. bart, muni, caltrain and ace all on time. that's the traffic. for more on the forecast, the winds, the warmth, here is lawrence. >> we are warming up nicely around the bay area. not as much wind today's. out the door we go and in some spots fairly calm as we're not seeing the winds generated by the system that moved through yesterday. calm into san jose. just a westerly wind at of miles per hour into san francisco. light into vallejo. remember yesterday we had gusts over 30 mi
. >>> time to check the morning commute with elizabeth wenger. >> not a lot of big accidents but the metering lights are on at the bay bridge. mobile5, they are still on the bridge this morning. everything at the limit here but a different story behind the pay gates. they turned or not metering lights around 6:00 and we are already -- they turned on the metering lights around 6:00 and we are already seeing 10-minute backups to get on the bridge but moves well on the span. sand...
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might have to find another route and for more on traffic, let's send things now over to elizabeth wenger>> reporter: you can see the road closure and detour signs up in that area. what's shut down is howard between 3rd and 4th. they do this every year for the oracle openworld conference by the moscone center. use mission instead. several muni lines are also impacted including the 14 mission, 30 stockton, 38 geary all rerouting and you may find a few delays while the conference continues through friday. so all week long we have to deal with those closures. okay. elsewhere here's a live look at the nimitz freeway 880 in oakland. no problems here in the east bay. it's looking good in fact from hayward to downtown oakland and the macarthur maze. and i want to show you some drive times because we are just beginning to see those usual brake lights through the altamont pass. and the liver valley. so just your usual stuff right there and the san mateo bridge the right side of your screen is westbound 92 only 13 minutes now out of hayward to take you towards the other side heading towards the pen
might have to find another route and for more on traffic, let's send things now over to elizabeth wenger>> reporter: you can see the road closure and detour signs up in that area. what's shut down is howard between 3rd and 4th. they do this every year for the oracle openworld conference by the moscone center. use mission instead. several muni lines are also impacted including the 14 mission, 30 stockton, 38 geary all rerouting and you may find a few delays while the conference continues...
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let's check traffic with elizabeth wenger. >> suddenly things are not looking too good. we in fact have two pretty bad accidents. i'll mention one here it is the traffic alert now out in vacaville but we have learned the person driving serious injuries not sure of the extent yet but it is eastbound 80 lagoon valley road. police are on scene so they believe lanes will be blocked for a half hour more and you can see no slowing on the sensors yet but i think that's going to change here any minute. southbound 880 at high street up to 20 cars on the shoulder with flat tires. there's some sort of debris in the road. chp can't say what it is but they were doing some roadwork along that stretch overnight. all the roadwork has cleared but there may have been something left behind not sure at this point. here's a live look farther south. this is near 66 and the oakland coliseum. everything appears to be okay down towards hayward and about 10 minutes ago they turned on the metering lights over at the bay bridge toll plaza. now we have delays at the overcrossings. that's the latest.
let's check traffic with elizabeth wenger. >> suddenly things are not looking too good. we in fact have two pretty bad accidents. i'll mention one here it is the traffic alert now out in vacaville but we have learned the person driving serious injuries not sure of the extent yet but it is eastbound 80 lagoon valley road. police are on scene so they believe lanes will be blocked for a half hour more and you can see no slowing on the sensors yet but i think that's going to change here any...
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tisa wenger.ast year on native americans and christianity, and have done a good amount of research on the topics of native americans and religious freedom. whomerican history, that is i am and where i am coming from. this has been said so often it is a clichÉ to my really, that i am a historian. historians do not do the future. we're not very good at -- so that is my opening disclaimer. i will do my best to reflect on this question, and i think there you started there about race as a social construct, was also where i was going to art. you got me started in a good direction. it is very clear in american history that how people understand race and divide up racial groupings has changed so drastically over time, so i think it is safe to say that it will continue to change. one of the things that historians talk about great deal in thinking about race in american history is the black- white wine area as being a way that racial difference has been structured, and that has always been looked somewhat d
tisa wenger.ast year on native americans and christianity, and have done a good amount of research on the topics of native americans and religious freedom. whomerican history, that is i am and where i am coming from. this has been said so often it is a clichÉ to my really, that i am a historian. historians do not do the future. we're not very good at -- so that is my opening disclaimer. i will do my best to reflect on this question, and i think there you started there about race as a social...
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my name is tisa wenger. this past year on native americans and christianity, i have done a good amount of research on the topics of native americans and religious freedom. in american history, that is who i am and where i am coming from. this has been said so often it is a clich? to my really, that i am a historian. historians do not do the future. we're not very good at -- so that is my opening disclaimer. i will do my best to reflect on this question, and i think there you started there about race as a social construct, was also where i was going to start. you got me started in a good direction. it is very clear in american history that how people understand race and divide up racial groupings has changed so drastically over time, so i think it is safe to say that it will continue to change. one of the things that historians talk about great deal in thinking about race in american history is the black- white defined area as being a way that racial difference has been structured, and that has always been lo
my name is tisa wenger. this past year on native americans and christianity, i have done a good amount of research on the topics of native americans and religious freedom. in american history, that is who i am and where i am coming from. this has been said so often it is a clich? to my really, that i am a historian. historians do not do the future. we're not very good at -- so that is my opening disclaimer. i will do my best to reflect on this question, and i think there you started there about...