. >> take me back to the day of officer wenjian liu's funeral when all of a sudden, all of the cops turned their backs on the mayor. >> that was a terribly sad day for the city and for those families, and, you know, those families are still grieving. it's going to take them a long, long time to get back to whatever could be called normal. and it was horrible. it really was horrible. i don't know -- i don't know why the officers turned their backs. i believe in protest and i think there's a time and place for it, but that wasn't the time. >> what was going through your mind when all of a sudden you see that happening? >> oh, it was just tremendous sadness and, you know, for the disrespect but also just for those families. mostly that's what i was thinking about is those families. we went and met them, talked with them, and, you know, the pain they're experiencing is just -- is just overwhelming. >> what did you say to your husband when that was happening? >> i think that we just sat together silently and just -- 'cause we've been together so long. we knew what each other was feeling. >> eri