and they were really good. they were there. unlike the french, the dutch were there. that's true. [ applause ] but anyhow, to get back to that -- glad i interjected about the french. but these three underground guys asked lieutenant conklin, who had just passed away, he was 90. and they asked him, could you permit us, there's a horse and wagon coming up this road. it's got eight german soldiers on it, four on each side. and they have an artillery piece they're pulling in back of the wagon. would you give us permission to take it out? and conklin said, let me tell you, i've been under these people for five years. you got the opinion to do it, you go ahead and do it. kill them all. so we all agreed. anyhow, these dutchmen get in the doorways and they let them have it. they had automatic weapons. and the germans were flying over the wagon like this, backwards. and one of them was about 6'2", 6'3", whatever, blond hair, blue eye, regular airman looking. he had been hit in the shoulder. and he, one of our men brought him up, said we're going to take him for questioning the

we were told no.w, all your guys are in there getting lit up and you want to be in there helping them, and we made it... waited about five minutes maybe. and we requested again. we were told no. so we requested again about two minutes later. and we were told no again. so i looked at staff sergeant rodriguez-chavez and i said, "we're going in." >> martin: staff sergeant juan rodriguez-chavez, who would receive the navy cross-- the nation's second highest honor-- drove an armored truck toward the village while meyer manned the gun turret. >> meyer: it felt like the whole valley turned on this truck. >> martin: you were it. >> meyer: it was like we're it, like, here comes a big target. the enemy was just... they were running right at you, you know, at the truck. >> martin: so this is not just raining fire down. now, they're trying to swarm the truck. >> meyer: it's just like a killing fest for them, i think. >> martin: how close are the rounds coming to you when you were doing this? >> meyer: the rounds

also sliding down were tankers. they were being built at an astonishing pace. as it hits the water a crane is already laying the first section of keel. they built them fast but they were built to last as well. many served in world war ii and vietnam with korea in between. into many cases without standing valor. to site one case, the ss meredith was involved in evacuating civilians in december of 1850 from the korean port. under heavy fire and in grave danger, the meredith eventually evacuated men, women and children. that was then, this is now. today the u.s.s. meredith is one of the sasun survivors and is unlikely the maritime meredith may still be outfitted for service. >> the meredith was used as a cargo ship, she's laying here in the sasun bay resort fleet waiting to serve again. >> when you climb aboard one of them the fact that they are commercially obsolete is obvious. we're told by the people who maintain them not to be fooled. >> rust is a superficial condition on steel. you will see although we have some superficial rust the steel is in good condition

so they were our allies. and so we were kind of watching them, three of them. and they deployed a helicopter to check us out. so this helicopter is hovering over the right side of the ship in the forward part of the bow. so i'm looking, i had my binoculars and i could see the guy with his binoculars. and he's looking at me and i wave. so suddenly the officer on the deck, the person actually driving the ship, says, captain, they want to talk to you. so i get on the ship to ship radio and i said this is lieutenant commander iskra, who are you? >> and they were like, um, commanding officer? >> yes. um. okay. well, we're just on our way to the suez canal and we just thought we would, you know, just make sure that everything was fine. yes, everything's fine. but it was really hilarious because you could tell they were really surprised about having a woman's voice over the intercom there. and i was the only woman on board, so that would have been that. so then i'm waving again and they're kind looking at me and then they went off. happy journeys. so we eventually --

, we were able to reopen the airport. and i'd like to mention some points that were effective for clearing the roads. i'd like to go back to the last earthquake before this earthquake, which was in 1995. so we had some reenforcement activities that had been done prior to this disaster to some structures. and for those bridges that had been done with reenforcement activities, those survived the tsunami accident. and the second point is that our ministry intensely used our resources to open 16 routes. and i'd like to repeat again that the support that's given from the local construction companies was very significant. and i'd like to move on to our fourth part. since mlit being the national level government, we were able to allocate and collect all the resources to the affected area. and the devices were very helpful. mlit decided to send persons to the affected areas. so we called these people liaisons and 96 liaisons were sent to 31 localities. so these people are very evidentive to support those localities leadership as

the black people were so poor, and the kids were dirty and they were -- they just kind of were gooey. and he came in there, and he walked around and he picked up those children and he patted their heads and he gave them water and he held them to his chest. she said, i wouldn't do that. she said, and that's why i'm for him. and when marion said that, that's a good thing. >> is there not a dichotomy between those who have many responsibilities and who must be elected, i.e., presidents, and

there were seven debates because there were seven political -- congressional districts in illinois at that time, and when illinois at that time. and when lincoln and douglass come to galesburg, lincoln knew very well what president mott and i know and the knox alums in the room today know, which is lincoln knew very well about galesburg and knox college's reputation. he knew he was on very good ground that day. and though you must understand there were many, many supporters of douglass in the audience that day, lincoln had a very friendly crowd that day and at one point he turns to douglass and says, "you are blowing out the moral lights around us." you're putting us in the dark if you consider any person to be a slave owner and another person to be a slave. he took a moral stand on the issue of slavery that he had only alluded to in one of the earlier debates briefly. but in galesburg he really put it on moral grounds. he followed it up with the sixth debate in quincy with that same moral theme and in alton, illinois at the last debate he delivers in my view his most elegant remarks

banks were reformed after the great depression. they absolutely were.as a political will issue and it continues to be. and the question isn't, "are we going to create something perfect?" the question is, "are we going to create something better than this?" it's actually a pretty low bar. so i think it's... it's definitely achievable. >> narrator: recently, the government tried to create tougher rules for banks that trade more than $100 million of swaps annually. the bank lobby swung into action. the outcome: only banks trading more than $8 billion will be subject to oversight. leaving 85% of all derivative players outside the reach of regulators. >> we now somehow believe that finance sort of drives everything. the crisis was an opportunity to change that. to ask questions like, "what is the role of finance in our economy? what is the role of banks?" but i suspect it's very hard. change gods. very difficult to and in the modern age, our god is finance. except it's turned out to be a very cruel and destructive god. >> next timfrontline, rupert murdoch. >

you were doing at the time you were doing it. did you ever think of that? >> well, i think certainly there was a need for coordination. there was need for representation at executive level. other chaps could have done the job perhaps equally as well or perhaps even better. but it seemed like -- it seemed like we turned out some pretty good crew. >> i don't think anybody could fault the selection of crew, alan, all the way through the "gemini" program and all the way to "apollo," and it was the time of "apollo" by which time you had finally located through stafford's ministrations as you described earlier, a way to treat the meniere's syndrome in los angeles, and suddenly the skies opened again for alan shepherd. or did they? you had to get back into the program, didn't you? >> well, of course, when nasa finally said i could fly again, i went to deke and said, we have not announced publicly the crew assignment for "apollo 13." i have a recommendation to make. and i had picked two bright young guys, one of them a ph.d. and one of t

they were exhausted. but they saved lives. devastating, it will take years to rebuild which but it makes a difference that they took time to prepare. it saved lives. here, what struck me a lot about reading about loma prieta was how the community came together. how people in the faith-based initiative community and non-profits and if public in general and private sector worked to get the community back together. to recover. i mentioned i was in joplin moreless right after it happened and ied that opportunity to go back just two weeks ago and to see that the devastation, which was seven miles long, 3/4 of a mile wide and nothing left standing except a little bit of the hospital. all the debris is gone in four months. the high school opened on time in august. they rebuilt the high school. albeit in a mall in 55 days. that the high school is open and the kids went back to school. that was done a little bit -- fema wrote a check and brought some people in to help out, but it was the leadership and the dedication of the school supe

so the approximate -- there were courses that were city funded and courses that were not city funded. we actually -- the city funded were 91% and coupled it with the other courses and the total is about 93% there. so we are -- the summer school that we have been able to provide, we are having a greater success rate as we move up in summer school offerings. just earned credit is really all examples of courses that were completed with a grade of a d or higher. thus getting five credits posted to the transcript. ok? so you've seen the pattern here of us identifying the problem. we did inputs with the summer school program last year. and these are the results we had. at this point in time, i'm going to turn this over to helen ying who is going to go with the same pattern with our ninth grade students for this year. what they looked like, first semester. and what our -- what our inputs will be this summer and then hopefully we will come to you with a greater number next year than actually 93%. and a reduced number of students that are actually failing our courses is where we eventually wan

. >> what were you watching? >> we were able to monitor in realtime what was taking place. >> the mood was tense. >> we could see our guys moving. >> when we saw the helicopters spinning, we said that's not the plan. >> we were all holding our breath. >> and everyone went whoa. >> we thought about there was a failure here. it would have disastrous consequences. >> when we got the message that they had killed bin laden, it wasn't over. >> the only thing that i was thinking about was i really want to get those guys back home safe. this was the longest 40 minutes of my life. captions paid for by nbc-universal television >> good evening. we are one floor below the level of the white house. we are about to take television news cameras inside the white house situation room for the first time in its history. we're here tonight entering this room to talk about this photograph. taken in this room a year ago. and the decisions and the military action that resulted in the death of osama bin laden. >> good evening. tonight i

they were gone. but we had with the soviets, a very active really tripart agenda, arms control, lateral issues and regional issue, to get proxy for us out of occupied countries, soviets out of afghanistan, cube answer out of parts of central america. once we get the soviets out, we did acheech a strategic objective and i would say it's fair to say it may not have had the secretarial nse presidential look that it had before, but it was an active matter at the dupty's committee because we had a lot of interest at play. they had resisted shooting the soviets in the back as they left. but they obviously didn't like the soviet proxy that had been left behind. i would travel to the region, go into islam bad, talk to the pakistanis, but then i would go to where the mu ja ha dean were hanging out. osama was continuity on the radar screen for us at that time, '90, '91. we were trying to figure out a way to make sure that afghanistan stayed relatively stable. it didn't give the soviets pretext for coming back

because there were things that were happening, and there were approaches. and they were constantly undercut. by american inaction and by jordanian mistakes and by israeli desire not to have a deal. and that is one of the themes in this book is that land for peace is the deal that's available. and it always has been. and what this book shows is negotiation by negotiation, position paper by position paper how the israelis and the americans chose going forward to have land, specifically the west bank, instead of peace. thereand next i'm going to moveo the iran -- no, excuse me, the iraq wars one and two. saddam hussein asked the united states whether he could invade kuwait or not. he didn't say it just that way, but that's, in effect, what occurred. and the american government through a series of miscalculations which my father feel were unfairly blamed on april glassby, who was simply operating under the instructions that she had been given by secretary baker, a distinguished diplomat and intelligent man who made, who many people think and my father thought m

they were starving. they were illiterate. here they are in one of the camps, which were run by the army and it was like a military organization. they were out in the wilderness. you could leave if you wanted to. this was a civilian conservation core. this is not trickle down next. in fact, it worked. it began to float local economies. they did an enormous amount of work. they wanted millions of trees. i looked over into alabama across a great forest of trees that were 70 years old. they're planted in huge numbers. imagine the kind of wildlife that becomes. they did an enormous amount of work and when the war was here, there was ready to go fight. this was not what this was intended to do. there are a few statues. they built a lot of lodges and visitor centers. these are just beautiful. amount of landscapes of ccc. this is the park. they did the work in them. the civil works administration was short lived. it was to get the people through the winter. and it was under the administration of a remarkable social worker from iowa n

there were doubts that were voiced inside the situation room, but they weren't doubts that were going through my own head. people who were advocating action understood that if this did not work, if we proved to be wrong, there would be severe geopolitical consequences and obviously most importantly, we might be putting our brave navy s.e.a.l.s in danger. >> reporter: at the meeting, the president did the not indicate which way he was leaning. >> as we're walking out, and we walked up together, as we walked out of the room, he said, you know, it's time to make a decision. i know it sounds -- the president's all alone. all alone. >> reporter: the president said he'd have an answer for the team in the morning. he walked back to the residence portion of the white house, had dinner with his family, and then went to his study after they went to bed. how does one spend that night, knowing that decision is due in the morning? >> well, there's no doubt that you don't sleep as much that evening, as you do on a normal night. you know, i stayed up late and i woke up early. you know, by that point

these were human beings. some of the anastazi were beautiful, wise, balanced with the earth people and it's like, no, they were us, doing their neolithic stone age thing but still us, human beings living in a place, chopping each other into little pieces sometimes and living lives of prosperity at other times. >> we have time for one more question. >> was the global warming when they were (inaudible) greenland and a cathedral there and i believe the maya moved from the lowlands to the highlands and the anastazi came down to the salt river. >> yeah, a lot of the movement was based on climate. the anastazi were always moving. the whole thing about the disappearing anastazi, you go to where they are living and they disappear all of a sudden. but you follow them and find, oh, 10 years later they are over here and 70 years later they are over here. they are often being driven by these climate changes which on the colorado plateau, very small changes make you go. if you lose one inch of precipitation in one year, y

>> there were a number of probing attacks at least along the sector that we were on. as i recall, we were on the -- probably the western side of the perimeter. no real heavy probes and the because they were looking for weaknesses in the line. and again, my company being fresh we had ample supply of ammunition. so we were a pretty solid company. so they didn't find too many weaknesses. so they obviously probed someplace else. >> tell me a little bit about your general feelings and your remembrance of colonel mcdade. before the war. just what kind of commander was he? i know he'd only been there -- >> before? >> before. yes. >> didn't know him. >> he was there, what, three weeks? four weeks? >> even if he'd been there the whole time, i didn't know him. he was a battalion commander of another battalion. remember, my unit was attached. >> you were attached. right. so i'm asking because did he make contact with you all? >> didn't make contact with us because we didn't fall under his command until we were ordered to move out. i mean, i could say the same about hal moore. i

no national guard were called. no live ammunition. no students were killed. that is leadership that requires courage. that is heroism. all of that was lacking at ohio and kent state. [ applause ] >> do either of you have a response? let's go to third row, right there. >> first i want to thank you for those remarks because as a political activist and scholar, i have a great deal of trouble with the truth and reconciliation model. but that's another issue. i wanted to make a comment in terms of the student affairs office and a more general comment to the three of you in terms of the historical moment at which interviews are conducted. in terms of student affairs, this was really enlightening and i think it is part of our revisioning of the second way. most of that revisioning is in terms of the activities of women of color. so this is a very different kind of thing i have to tell you on my own campus, cal state long beach, one of the counselors in student affairs was the most active person in promoting chicano feminism on our campus. you took this model and hav

but his predictions were right, were they not? >> i did become the editor of "the sun." >> if certain events had occurred, it might have. but rebecca-- rebekah was promoted. >> at some time, yes. >> you refer to mr. osborn. you said you met with him in 2005. did you get on well with him? >> i got along fine. we did not spend a lot of time together, but i remember having a cup of coffee with him at that conference. >> you deal intergroup 38 specifically with a story which was published in -- you deal in paragraph 38 specifically with a story that was published in "news of the world" in 2005. can we understand the context? did "the sunday mirror" published the same story? >> i am not sure when i was aware there would publish the same story. >> on the same sunday? >> yes. >> and you could anticipate that "the sunday mirror" would be hostile to mr. osborn, did you not? >> i knew they were publishing it, so i did not give it any thought. i think it is a given that "the sunday mirror" is a more left- leading newspaper, and as a conseque

what they were. >> yeah. it wasn't an issue. >> in paragraph 83 you refer to a meeting that the minister sponsoring the bill had on the 17th of january, 2008. we have the note of the meeting under tab 44. i don't think it's necessary to turn it up. we know mr. brett and mr. garnier had a powerful voice on that occasion. then moving forward, in paragraph 84, you met directly with mr. dakor, mr. mcclellan, mrs. brooks. i don't think mr. hinton. >> mr. hinton i don't think was there, no. >> and that us referred to in a letter you wrote on the 12th of februa february. it's under tab 46 when the meeting was, whether it was over lunch or over dinner, it may not matter much. >> i don't think the meeting was over lunch or dinner, i think it was in my office. in fact i'm almost certain it was in my office. yeah. >> we could look at the text of the letter. you write to mr. dakor. you say we're not proposing to criminalize any conduct which is not currently against the law. however, we do understand you and the media's

>> it was not -- they were ashamed, but they were not particularly proud. virginia's slave economy was not a growing economy. it was a stagnating economy. virginia's agricultural economy was not a growing economy. but a stagnated one. the reason why so many slaves are sold out of the upper south to the lower south is because in many ways, there weren't new slaves needed in virginia and maryland and north carolina where they were needed, they were in the new caltrans of the southwest. an owner, quite often, might have what he considered excess capacity. he would sell off one or two slaves here, almost always, breaking up families because what sold and dropped money in the marketplace where people age 15 to 30 years. husbands wives, brothers and sisters, mothers and fathers and their children. they would be sent to richmond, which was a bit of a gathering place. most of the slaves purchased there were not by slave owners, but by other slave traders. they would march from overland, where the men would be chained together to buy two, and the women not change, m

they were selected. how it will look in the future, a lot of these questions will be answered when he does the main revise. in three or four weeks we will know things like what funding he is proposing to put back for pre-k. and what he is proposing to put back and we can come forth and 10 how we can possibly, if is going to be a be funded, expand our current sites to more than just the two. commissioner maufas: ms. bryant. you said -- i always like to make a notation of who is speaking. if you could say your name and what you do in your work in early education. >> i am the chair of cpac, i'm the director of the san francisco child care providers association. we do the ceo said -- sye -- side. >> director of the

we were at a crossroads, a three-way crossroads. there were houses. if we moved forward a little bit, the hous would be behind us. somebody thought, maybe germans are in those houses. in the movies, you check the house for snipers or people, german enemy, you pull a grenade and throw itn. i didn't have any grenades. we just had to kick e doors in without a grenade, but we did . and the first house i came to, i kickedhat door in and went in and there was nobodyn the house at all. so i went out to look in the back, there was a backyard stone fence about six or seven feet high nobody i could see. and there was, i think, an outhouse connected to e house. i thought maybe there's somebody in there and i called them to come out with their hands up a nobody answered. so i put a couple of shots into that outhouse for good luck. and thought, well, this -- i went back out and hollered. i went upstairs but nobody was upstairs. came bk down. i yelled across the street to the guy that was covering, this house is clear. and a little bit later, we waited and waited f

they were made, they were found, or they were bought, and very few of their possessions would have been purchased, so if you look at the table, the table itself and the chairs and the benches around it would have been made by george or one of his sons. many of the cooking implements and bowls would have been made by george or his sons, using the gourds as bowls or cups, wooden bowls, wooden spoons. the checkerboard made by hand. candles made by hand. found items might have included the ceramics. if you notice the pitcher on the table, it's not in the best shape. how did they get that pitcher? well, a wealthier white family might have gotten rid of that pitcher. they might have decided that that was no longer of good enough quality to keep in their home and so out it went. for an african-american family that pitcher was still absolutely usable so we find it here in the gilmore cabin. the oil lamp, however, would have been an item that they bought. many houses in the late 19th century would have included three or four oil lamps. the gilmores might have had one. one of the other unique fea

there were the choctaw, cherokees, creeks, there were several different tribes.e did, what we decided to do is we had three people and myself and we wrote down on a board exactly what offends you. what offends your tribe? then we wrote down what honors your tribe? and then that's what we did. we made sure we didn't do anything that offended anybody else. then we made sure that we honored everything that was honorable to their specific tribes. what would designate their tribe? then we went from there. the first thing we needed was a drum. so we had a drum committee, a crafts committee. when we set up the pow-wow, we set it up for two days. we did the game day. and within that game day, we had stick balls, stick ball game and, of course, we made all of that from everything we could find that wasn't tied down in iraq. and then we had indian marbles. we had blow dart game which the blow darts were actually donated by cherokee nation. and we had tomahawk throws. now with the tomahawk we actually made those tomahawks there in iraq. we found a box of mallets. of course,

he said they were dangerous, they were incendiaries, they were trying to harm the united states, they were trying to harm american society. so this is something that is a hard fight for abolitionists in this generation. and the 19th century has been called by historians the century of emancipation because this fight takes place in many different societies. and it's a hard fight everywhere. and everywhere slave owners fight back. you know, everywhere slave owners try to counter these criticisms and they try to preserve slavery. and we'll be talking about that in a few minutes. the individuals who get caught up in the abolitionist movement, the people who lead the abolitionist movement are very interesting people. and there have been lots of different biographies on the different historical figures. i think at this point we can quote a civil rights activist from the 1950s and 1960s about what kind of person would be involved in this movement, what kind of person would be leading it. and i'd like to quote a nice phrase from andrew young, who was a black political activist. he was a frien

his men were exhausted. they did feel it out a bit that day, but decided they would have a demonstration in force the next day. now, i've explained before that these defenses were mutually supporting. so that if you attacked ft. stevens, you were going to catch fire from the forts on both sides. even jubal early and his demonstration on the 12th, realized that and decided to actually leave. the defenses, as i mentioned, started being built in 1861. this is kind of an 1864 with the battle of ft. stevens. this is the culmination of the defenses. following the attack in july of 1864, they pretty much went on the line. but they still had some troops, but they weren't worried about that. lee was more or less headed south and the other confederate troops were doing the same and other parts of the country. so, in 1864, it was probably the culmination of the defenses themselves. although construction went on right to the end of the war and on some of them, even afterwards. interestingly, in the 1930s, the civilian c

injured one of them apparently stabbed in the legs dozens were injured at least forty five people were arrested during otherwise peaceful demonstrations by thousands clash with in chicago police in riot gear trying to push back thousands of protesters protesters refused to leave or to police a long time to clear that and there was violence american police officers with nightsticks and shields of course really shut down the public demonstration the main focus today is going to be boeing corporate headquarters in downtown chicago boeing of course a big defense contractor one of mass protesters opposed to the war among other things that were to be back out on the streets again today. all right so there you have a lot of clashes and you know even when reporters do interview those protesters you almost never hear the questions what are you protesting why are you here questions about the police presence and police brutality are important too but what about why these thousands of people have traveled to chicago in many cases taking days off work to voice their concerns is it because they're a

they were the two rising new powers. they had europe bracketed on each side and russia very much wanted to see the power of the united states sustained. then there was an arc of the war and 1862 kind of runs like this. it starts at a very low point. lincoln on january 2nd actually talks to his friend, john dal gasoline, about what dal gasoline talks about the bare possibility of our being two nations. first time lincoln had ever entertained the possibility that he might not be able to save the union. that's his mood on the first day. in february, the store clerk from illinois, ulysses grant, with 12,000 men, goes into tennessee and strikes the fastest most efficient, most dramatic blow against the south of the entire war. he captures the cumberland and tennessee rivers in the space of a week and the entire western line of the confederate army is shattered. so the mood goes clear up here. and by the end of april, they've captured new orleans which was according to the great winfield scott, that was the key to winning the

over the years, the forts were changed. they were made larger. guns were changed to get the best function out of each fort and out of the system itself. the defenses were tested in july of 1864. now before i say that, there were raids on the forts guerrilla forces where they'd come in and steal horses or supplies or whatever. but the only real attack and it really wasn't an attack it was a reconnaissance in force took place july 11th and 12th, when jubal early marched up through the valley fought out monocacy and marched towards washington on the northern side. came up and faced these forts up there. the main one fort stevens when abraham lincoln came out to watch what was going on. he was not successful. he realized he really couldn't do what he wanted to do. and he turned around and went back down into the valley. after that basically nothing really tested the fortifications after that. besides the forts themselves, you had the batteries that were on both sides or the rear of the forts. you also had trenches that connected the forts all the way

that's what the situation were. every day people not being able to take the conditions, live under those condition, threw themselves on the high voltage wires and were electrocuted. i don't kw where to start to be able to get into details. but in general, auschwitz was something that never existed before in the history of the world. and i hope, i hope and pray that it will never happen again anywheres in any part of the world against any people [ applause ] >> babe, when you were in europe, easy company liberated a concentration camp which s a subcamp of dachau. it was called landsberg. >> landsberg, germany. >> landsberg, germany. what do you say to those people who deny that the holocaust ev happened from somebody who saw it personally? >> you ain't allowed to curse them. and what i'd tell them in no uncertain terms, it was there. it was there. just as this gentleman said. the german people denied it. the villagers that lived around the camp said they never saw it, they don't know about it. but our cmpany commande

i mean, who were journalists. so i don't think -- i think more what you get out of this book is -- what you really get is a sense of what it was really like to do this job. there's some wonderful anecdotes, some wonderful stories. but what you really get is a sense of what it was like to be there every day and to work your way through the war up north, along the coast, eventually up to paris. i say one thing just about this, though. i think there's a lot of work to be done on world war ii and world war ii coverage. i don't think we still fully have a good way to describe what reporting was like. and frankly, how bad it was. the military had sort of two efforts, two tactics they used to try to control reporters. this may be heresy to many, this may be the ernie pile room. write stories about them so they could be sent home. the stories could be september home and make people feel good about the kids in the trenches. a little of that went a wrong way. but it was also -- it was a good way to build support for the war

and there were people in the audience who were there to listen, but douglass said later there were also people in the audience who looked very anally like they were going to do something about their antagonism to the speaker. and after they started the lecture, about 30 white men rushed onto the stage, started to tear down the platform, and beat up frederick douglass and william white. they were both badly beaten up. one of douglass's hands was broken. and douglass said for years afterwards, he said that william white saved his life that day. now, a man who had a big stick was standing over douglass and was about to hit him over the head with it and may well have killed him, and william white stopped it from happening. and they do get away. they're not murdered that day in pendleton, indiana. and douglass felt grateful to white for the rest of his life. and william white is one of those unsung heroes of the abolitionist movement. you know, there are hundreds of people we don't know very much about who nonetheless took an active part in the movement and white is one of them. douglass sai

if hurtful things were done, or there were things bad happening outside, were you able to just put them aside or did they hurt? >> no. i mean, they -- you know, of course, you didn't like to have your husband be criticized. but i knew from the way the election was in 1992 that what happens in the united states is that our presidents and our first ladies for that matter get characterized in a way they are not a lot of times. and george and i were so miserable in 1992 when president bush lost. it was really the -- terrible for us to see our father who we loved criticized in a way we thought was unfair. so i was very aware that's just part of it. that's just something you put up with. you do. you are right. you are so busy and there are so many issues and so many things you are working on. plus, you know a lot of times better than the people that are criticizing you. you really do. you know more about the issue than they're -- you know, it's easy to stand from the back row and criticize without really being as informed, obviously, as someone who is briefed every day is. and so i think you

they were pros. and we were not prepared unfortunately. they knew exactly what they were doing. the tennessee got two hits, center line hits. one right through the top of number three, one on the center gun of number 2. they were good. >> the last week we were out there, just before the the attack, japanese submarines followed us all the time. while we were out to sea for a week. and wouldn't surface during the day. but at night they would surface and pick it up and immediately submerge. we'd send messages to them on the radio and international frequency and they would not answer. so we knew they were jap subs. usually, you work this way. one battle force would be in and one would be out. division one was the one force and then the other battleship division two and four were the other ones. and they would go out. we were coming in on friday, december 5th. we always flew in and we'd fly in and land at fort island or somewhere when the ship was in harbor. any way, there was one coming out. i said, what's the matter with the other battle force, they are not coming out. >> they deci

they were beautiful girls dressing up. the love to dress it up there were very chic. at that time, one of them was wearing old chanel from the flea markets. we were a lot going to the flea market. a chanel jacket. and me, i was thinking about my grandmother. of course, it was before. transparency. and they were smoking. that was provocative in a way. but it was going well with the time, the moment of sexual liberty and freedom because of the hippies. like in san francisco but also a stage of freedom, you know? after that, it was known as a way that the girl wanted to be like madonna, to be strong, to be as strong as a man. showing a little bit of their strategy. it does not mean that those girls were very -- >> easy would be the simple word to say it. [laughter] >> at the time of the 1960's, there was the first one to do that. he made me do dress or a company scared, know. but there were in shorts as well. that was provocative. >> this provocation and not just about the girls, about women feeling their sexuality. it is also about men. i have seen all your shows and i

were there some for whom i had complete and total contempt? yes, there were. did i ever kick them out of briefings? no. >> he continues and concludes indeed, political correspondents had a certain alongside their professional -- >> that's what i call the herd mentality. >> yes, it's true. a cynical way some were favored because they worked for murdoch, others were sneered at because they worked for at because they worked for conrad black disgusted many who worked for neither. >> again, the person at the sun with whom i would have had most day-to-day contact was trechb cabinet because he was the political editor. i think it's fair to say trevor and i disagreed about most things. he was -- i go back to the point i made earlier. everybody thought i was favoring somebody else. everybody thought that anything that appeared in the press somehow came from me. the whole thing was absurd. but the absurdity i think -- and i say in the statement one of the best examples of spin done by journalists is the extent to which the issue of spin became so central to the debate.

they were the ones who were risking their lives. when the freedom rides took place in 1961, john was by then robert kennedy's right-hand man in the civil rights movement. when the first buses of these nice, well-meaning c.o.r.e. people were set on fire and c.o.r.e. properly, i think, bailed, it was the nashville kids with this extraordinary leadership and the great teachings of the reverend james lawson-- having been in the fire and broken the city's-- already disciplined by the sit-in movement and winning there, took it over knowing-- i mean, this is really like the young americans in saving private ryan landing on d-day, really believing that they would be killed. they made out their wills. they were the ones who said, "we will risk our lives to do this." and john, in fact, tried to talk them out of it, as did the senior ministers, who thought, "alabama, mississippi, it's too dangerous. the klan is on the loose." the fbi had not yet-- j. edgar hoover was on the side of, effectively, the forces of segregation. and these young peopl

you were parachuting in and you were, you were, how old were you? >> i was just 20 years old. about landing and what happened? >> on normandy, we jumped at the 1:30 a.m., pitch dark, behind enemy lines. our mission was to parachute behind the enemy lines, do everything possible to keep the germans at bay, to prevent them from getting to the beachhead, to allow them to establish a beachhead on the american side. gregg: and what happened? >> and it was so dark, and the weather was bad and, as a result, we were scattered all over the countryside in normandy. and before we entered the plane they issued us a toy-like cricket, it would click, click, saw movement and couldn't identify who it was at night, you would click twice. if he was a paratrooper he will have had the click and he would click back once. that means, that he would be a friendly soldier. gregg: yeah. how scared were you? >> i was frightened. being a 19-year-old and i was frightened but your adrenaline gets to the point where you forget about being frightened. you're trying it save your life and do your job at the sa

the black people were so poor, and the kids were dirty and they were -- they just kind of were gooey. and he came in there, and he walked around and he picked up those children and he patted their heads and he gave them water and he held them to his chest. she said, i wouldn't do that. she said, and that's why i'm for him. and when marion said that, that's a good thing. >> is there not a dichotomy between those who have many responsibilities and who must be elected, i.e., presidents, and those who are pushing the issues, i.e., the ghandis, as those championing as those you would want them to? >> the answer is yes. i was present when kennedy -- you know the joke about franklin roosevelt being persuaded, some big move needed to be made, and he said, i agree with you completely. now go out and force me to do it. >> that's a good one. >> kennedy didn't say that. i was present when he gave the bad news in a private session with king. that they would not be introducing civil rights legislation in the first congress, contrary to the platform. and it was a major moment. and for a long time th

there were three cranes to pay. the most important ones were the hon died -- hyundai cranes, to paint one was [unintelligible] we were short. the project is designed and also for the back lands project, a lot of the design work and things had been done. we were working with the puc. we're not starting -- we're not starting from ground zero. there is work that has been done already. >> this one slipped by me and i am really sorry. i do not have a sense of everything that is funded that is not -- does not have enough to make a difference or have the project afford. i am not quite sure how you came up with these numbers versus the park versus all these other things out there. the money is not being used. but we decided to take money from these parts. >> we did go through quite an extensive review. we first found funds that were available from closed project. these two projects we could not accomplish with the existing funding. for the other projects in the capital program, there were not ones that were standouts we cou