there were, you know, werner von braun was already there. a lot of people to have a lot of engineers and scientists had descended on alabama. and the city wanted to disassociate themselves from the rabid race imagery of the rest of the state, and that helped them. you know, they negotiated this quietly. so, yes. from the beginning i have memories. my parents were civil rights activists. after the of voting civil-rights act passed some of voting at, then it turned to politics. i grew out looking in tpa stance, part of the national democratic party. i had memories. my father ran for governor against george wallace in 1970. i just have these memories of my summers being taken all around the state, particularly the black part of state. those counties that were the center of the plantation economy during antebellum era, not surprising a hundred years later all the black votes were. and it fell like particularly during that election, 1970, it felt like i had been carried to every black church in the black belt. i watched my father give this speech