i don't expect him to be werner von braun. i expect him to hire him to get the job done. >> may i please make my other point? we at least need to acknowledge there was something else going on. no one has said this yet. there was something going on when this thing was being launched. >> what? >> that was the budget showdown, which was a national calamity. >> give me a break. >> it was three years in the making. >> he had years to work on this. >> think of it this way. do you want -- >> by the way, denzer just said something profound. why didn't they subcontract it out? >> that's exactly right. >> amazon. make every american a prime plus customer. >> i don't want to work with people with the federal government and all that red tape. >> all of those buddies, all those liberals. >> well, think about it. it gets down to presidential style and substance. jimmy carter spent time at the tennis courts, right? you don't want that. reagan had it pretty good. people called reagan lazy, but he deliberated. he handed the stuff to the right