shanghai, werners love more as a city. beijing is like living in a giant airport. the roads are all 100 lanes wide. >> rose: shanghai has the rivers. >> and these old european architecture. so there is a lot, i like almost every city in china. they are all horrible and yet they are all fascinating. >> rose: h often will you go back? >> as often as i can. >> rose: me too. >> i hope at least twice a year. >> rose: really. >> yea >> rose: in search of just change. >> yes because every time, my wife and i went to ef pre-- ery province but one and every time we got off the plane or train we can believe what we saw. going to new places and see what is changing and meet new friends and old friends. an interesting place. >> rose: they liked george bush, his foreign policy. >> true. >> rose: what did they like. >> mao had a maxism saying go with the republicans they are predictable. they feel the republicans will give them less of hard time. thdemocrats are more of a handful. bill clinton talking about the butcrs of beijing, the democrats give more a hard time on human righ