general wesley clark joins our panel this morning.perience, sir, in the military. when you hear what leon panetta says and lays out, do you think his critics has a point? >> actually, i think leon panetta put it pretty well, soledad. this is a plan we were coming out with in 2013. we have to transition before that time in order to a train, advise, assist role. he's giving fair notice. i think he said it at a time where's going to europe. 's going to talk to the european allies. it's about maintaining consensus and strong support for the mission. it makes a lot of sense when he said it. remember why we went into afghanistan. we went there because of osama bin laden. we got him. president obama made a really tough decision. he got him. he took him down. al qaeda's much weaker and much different today. so it's time to transition away from this mission. >> okay. but when you look at what pa tray yus and add mierl mike mullen said back in the summer, they were -- they didn't support it then. i'm going to play you a little bit of what they

our friend tonight, wesley clark. wonderful to see you, sir. >> thank you very much. >> what is your reaction to this iranian response to the report? the headlines are all talking about the surge in enrichment activity. the report says some of the thuk lehr activities may still be ongoing. what did you take away from what the am bass dor had to say? >> i think this is a standard operating procedure of governments who want to conceal these activities. as you is him, he's all in interest of peace, where's the missing uranium, why aren't inspectors permitted there 24 hours a day? if iran were worried about as it should be, about sanctions and other opgs still on the table and they weren't after a nuclear weapons program, surely they could make a stronger effort to convince the world of their innocence. this is part of a diplomatic stall. ipg what you're seeing in the intelligence reports and the iaea report shows they're moving towards the acquisition of the capacity to develop and field a nuclear weapon. they may not ha

wesley clark spoke why they want to pull out ahead of time. >> why did we go into afghanistan?and al queda is not as strong today it is time to transition out. >> we have been diligent on this at 10 years after the september 11th attack. >> 21,000 names on that list. the increase is due to changes that president obama called for after the terror attack by the " underwear bomber " christmas 2009 from the detroit flight. before that a person had to be a flight to the aviation to beat on that list. however if there any type of a security threat their name can appear on that list. fed >> spirit airlines is charging too extra dollars for each ticket. $2 -- a for new federal regulations that allow passengers to change within 24 hours with no fee. in response, the transportation secretary says that fear service should be the focus instead of new fees and new >> in memphis this violent crash shot down this highway. victims'. police say that three people were transported in critical condition. the parents were relieved that no children on the day care bus were injured. police believe th

. >> wesley clark, who says it is time to transition away fr the mission in afghanistan, now focus onaliban. general petraeus, head of the cia, says that the comment that leon panetta made is being over analyzed. are we getting out early or not? >> i think we are getting out early and obama seems determined to do eight or reonally, there was a report of that captured taliban. that taliban thinks they are winning. >> it gave it mitt romney a big club this week. >> we not going to sleep with a -- going to leave with a " mission called the" banner. if we are leaving in 2013 whose brother sister wife is going to be the last to die in this withdrawal? i don't see the policy objective rightow. >> we will never know ife poured the resources of iraq and afghanistan we could have "won" and left, but we are learning the lesson ever great power has learned -- >> young americans there right now -- >> "washington post" editorial on this ended on that sentiment is we are going to withdraw in a year, whwhy are we having soldiers dying now? clearly, withdrawing next year, and even speaking of releasi

. >> was a card saying it is time to transition away from the -- mission in wesley clark saying it is time to transition away from the mission in afghanistan. david petraeus, head of the cia, says that the comment by leon panetta is over-analyze. >> i think we are getting out early, the obama administration seems determined to do it. the taliban thinks they are winning. they don't think and they are being defeated. >> it gave mitt romney a big club this week. >> we are not going to leave with a "mission accomplished" banner. i'm just beginning to wonder now, if we are leaving in 2013, whose son, brother, wife is going to be the last to die in this withdrawal? i don't see the policy objective right now? >> we will never know if you pour the resources of iraq into afghanistan we could have pulled one and left, but we're learning a lesson every other great power has learned since the early days. >> graves of young americans -- >> mark's point is important on that. "the washington post's" editorial ended on that said why are we having our soldiers dying now? clearly, withdrawing next year

. >> wesley clark, who says it is time to transition away from the it mission in afghanistan and focus on beating the caliban. general petraeus, head of the cia, says that the comment that leon panetta made has been over and allies. are we getting out early or not? >> i think we're getting out early, and obama seems determined to do a. there was a report of the captured todd heap and -- the captured taliban. the taliban thinks we are winning. >> it gave mitt romney a big club this week. >> we are not going to leave with a "mission accomplished" banner. if we leave in 2013, who is brother, sister, wife is going to be the last to die in this withdrawal? i don't see the policy objective right now. >> we will never know if we poured the resources of iraq into afghanistan we could have "won" and left, but we are learning the lesson that every other great power has learned since the early days. >> thousands of young americans there right now. >> "washington post" editorial on that ended on that sentiment. if we are going to withdraw in a year, why are we having our soldiers die now? clearly,

well rand was on the list that tony blair said dick cheney had that wesley clark said the pentagon had a decade back it's been on the list of the project for the new american century and the neo cons in this country it's been a target since the one nine hundred fifty s. and since the revolution in the late one nine hundred seventy s. it is not at all new that iran is the target but we have successfully persuaded the american public that it would be another iraq that we were being lied to for many years now and this campaign to get us into iran again has failed you public relations terms for several years now we have to keep up that campaign david swanson author of war as a lie joining us from charlottesville virginia thanks so much. well we sort of tune in in thirty minutes you're not going to want to miss this one occupy the prison system from oakland to new york and our nation's capital to chicago protesters rallied outside of prisons to shed light on inhumane treatment and injustice inmates in ohio actually went on a hunger strike to bring awareness to the issue and coming up at eig

she's going to talk to wesley clarke. not only a general, but a former presidential candidate. politics and the military. this should be a great interview soledad will have, as well. >> it's 5:05. minding your business now. stocks kicked off a new month with solid gains. the nasdaq led the way, with strong earnings from the tech sector. >> and the big news might though have been facebook, facebook, facebook. you probably saw it, heard it. the company finally did the filing. we were waiting and wondering. yesterday was the day. christine romans, you were the first to tell us at 5:00 in the morning. >> and status update is they're going to file for an ipo. now, we know. we have a look, as i was saying, under the hood of this company. we know how much money it made. and what kind of revenue it had and where that was coming from. this is how it stacks up with the rest of the big tech giants. we made about $1 billion of profit last year. that makes it a bit smaller than the microsofts the ibms, the googles of the world. its revenue was $3 billion, almost $4 billion in revenue. 85% o

. >> when 9/11 hit they hired wesley clark to go to the government to sell their services to the government. that's an example of this wall crumbling. >> we have no time for this but give me an examine. medical record keeping. if you are in australia and yo- fall down and nobody knows -- you keel over and nobody knows what your record is, they don't have to call your wife or children to find out where it is and on and on. while you pass out they press a button with what they find in your wallet and they can find your medical information. it's great. >> i think medical information when fair information practices are applied to it could benefit consumers. >> do the pluses outweigh the minuses? >> it depends. good uses of information are good and bad uses are bad. >> thank you very much. it's a big issue and

wesley clark said with the death of osama bin laden, it's time for america to ease out of afghanistan we're trying to train the local people to take care of their own security problems. so it was never the intent the united states would make there and make this the 51 sph 51 -- make this the 51st state. >> reporter: a report details a strong drive to retake afghanistan once coalition forces leave. live in washington, carol han, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> a northern california marine is being remembered in a special way this morning. sergeant william spacecy was killed tuesday. a roadside bomb blew up while he was that -- while he was patrolling the province. he was 23. he joined the marines five years ago. his friends say he was smart, care ras tattic -- charismatic and wise. >> happening right now, a house committee is holding a hearing looking into the controversial fast and furious gun sting program. these are live pictures of that hearing. attorney general eric holder is testifying about the program. federal a -- agents were supposed to keep track of the guns. but they lost track of

retired army general wesley clark. general clark, good to have you here. >> thank you, suzanne? >> we've heard from the defense secretary and he's getting slammed by some critics saying he's revealing a time line to the enemy. is that the way you see it? >> no, i don't see it that way. i see it as a smart statement. as barbara says, it makes sense in the context of his meeting with the europeans to lay this out publicly. it helps our european allies deal with their own concerns about how long they will be there. it's well known we're coming out, and suzanne, the fundamental point is we went into afghanistan to get osama bin laden. we got osama bin laden. now it's a matter of getting out smoothly. we're transitioning, we're training, and simply putting out this time line for the training and the transition is nothing more than common sense. everybody knew this was going to happen, and -- and there's nothing given away here to the enemy. >> i want to play a bit of sound here. this is from mitt romney who went after the president as well as the secretary. let's listen real quick. >

coming up, we're going to be joined by general wesley clark. >>> funeral services for the two young sonsf josh powell will be held saturday afternoon near the home they died in. powell attacked those boys with a hatchet before blowing up their house. and this morning we're hearing for the first time the 911 calls made by the children's case worker in the moments after she brought them for a supervised visit with their dad. >> ma'am. >> yeah. >> do you know the exact address of the house? >> yeah. it's 8119 189th street court east. >> okay. okay. stay on the line. do you know if anyone is in the house? >> yes, there was a man and two children. >> okay. >> i just dropped off the children and he wouldn't let me in the door. >> okay. stay on the line for the fire department. okay. i'm going to get them on the line. do not hang on. hold on. >> abc news has a voice mail powell left for his family minutes before he blew up the house with the children in it. in it he says, quote, i'm not able to live without my sons and i'm not able to go on anymore. i'm sorry to everyone i've hurt. good-bye. >>

thank you. >>> and general wesley clark, former nato supreme commander talks to soledad on "startingint." >>> coming up ahead on "early start," some more good news about jobs. and that's a good thing to hear when you're waking up. apparently the job openings in december, highest numbers that we've had in years. so who's getting those jobs? who is doing the hiring? you're going to have to stick around for it. i am loving this greek yogurt. i like yoplait. it is yoplait. but you said it was greek. mmhmm. so is it greek or is it yoplait? exactly. okay... [ female announcer ] yoplait. it is so greek. oh, sweetheart! can i give you a hand? no, thanks, dad, i got it. okay. i'm going to go fix the lamp in your room. you don't have to be perfect to be a perfect parent. there are thousands of children in foster care who will take you just as you are. >> i like that. stronger, i think there's a reason why we're play that song. >> yes, because we are "minding your business" now, and it is stronger. good news for the labor market. jobs openings were at their highest level in three years in decem

. >> reporter: wesley clark, a former nator commander, warnds a political settlement comes first.ithout it tens of thousands could try to get out to turkey, and with massive amounts of aid trying to get in, it all becomes a target for syrian forces. >> it's easier to talk about this than it is for turkey to do it. >> reporter: other geographic avenues for aid trucked in and refugees getting out are all difficult. already some syrians are crossing into northern lebanon and into jordan. iraq is another option, but pressure from iran, which supports assad's regime could hinder all of this. clark suggests another option, bringing aid into syrian ports closer to the people who need it, but without an agreement from syria, it could all be disastrous. >> we're not going to have that left of cooperation from the syrian military. >> reporter: and that is the problem, candidate. as long as the violence continues, there's going to be very little action on any type of humanitarian relief corridor, safe haven, any time of help for the people trapped inside syria. barbara starr, awful to watch,

. >> you have suggested that arming the opposition might be a plan when we spoke to general wesley clarkht that plan had flaws. i want to play for you what he told me yesterday. >> it's a tough -- that is a very tough way to go. there is an opposition, it's not that well-organized, they have camps in turkey, they are already getting arms from some people and some support, when you add more weapons to it, you create more conflict but you don't necessarily resolve it. >> he seems to think that is not necessarily a doable strategy. why are you laughing? >> because i wish general clark had a chance to see what you just showed that is going on there, merciless slaughter of innocent people. some arms are getting through and i hope more arms get through but to say that when defenseless people are being slaughtered to give them weapons to defend themselves complicates things, i'm sorry, general, that is not the way i was brought up. >> let's turn, if we can and talk about the gop race, we're at cpac, and the straw poll here on saturday night, we had a chance to talk to a couple folks, the man ru