maybe it comes back to it wesley clark hope so right before coming on this trip i celery this is my two year anniversary for being cancer free that part of this trip for me is also raising awareness about these chemicals that are in our environment they're in our oceans they're in our seafood they're even in our ground water supply and thinking about what are we putting into our bodies and how that's ultimately affecting us truth be told one in promise will get cancer. of the hardest moment. here you spend your time on the hardest moment. i guess. i'm going to have five but you will try. to do not too much. but is tied to the affects of q mono. you know sometimes ignorance is bliss and we don't know what wonder drugs going to do to you. then you kind of don't worry but as a scientist and having studied a lot of stuff i knew. what they were pumping into my body and what was about to happen. to ours who is a spirit. so i was more scared of the drugs keep sir. i love the chemicals that we're finding in the action and we all flying in our own bodies and cost an engine i mean the fact that t

the president of the leadership flens on civil rights, retired general wesley clark and lawrence tribes back with us, a constitutional law professor at harvard. many ways to come at this. general clark, let's start just down the middle. is this a good idea for the military to be called upon to do something that congress and the president otherwise can't agree how to do? >> i think it's a really bad thing for the united states armed forces to be dragged into this. we're nonpolitical. we'll do whatever the commander in chief orders us to do. if it's a legal order. the lawyers are going to argue about that, but whether it's legal or not, ultimately it's political and the men and women in uniform understand it. they're being used for an obvious political -- partisan political purpose here. it's going to hurt. >> so your view is, even if it were potentially lawful, i mean, a court might ultimately have to rule on it, it's just not the place for the military to be sort of the tiebreaker on a shutdown fight of this magnitude? >> that's exactly right. >> and vinita, is it legal? >> look, i thi

true so i was chosen i was a 24 years old, and we had a big dance it was a fabulous program and wesley clark, we had a big dance at the white house the night he wasat selected there we only three women out of the 16 white house before after he twirled me around he whispered for me to direct him in the white house a but it wasn't that for months i was a graduate student at harvard in the anti-vietnam war movement and written an article a against the lbj but it came out two days after the dance in the white house. [laughter] and -- title of the article was how to remove lyndon johnson from power. [laughter]e so i was certain he would kick me out of the c program but instead he said bring her down here for a year and if i can't win her over no one can and i was working for him in the whowtion and company in the ranch spoke last year to help him on memoirs and i must say it was the most extraordinary experience he's the most formidable interesting, strange, brilliant, colorful character i've ever met, and what a privilege it was to spend so manyny hours with this aging lie of a man. i would like