. >>> also, with us now is nato supreme allied retired commander, wesley clark. and as you are looking at this, an official familiar with the intelligence say ts that they a certain that there is a command hamas center underneath the hospital, and they use the fuel intended for that hospital, and from that official from the quods, they are waiting to be evacuated, but you can see in the footage of the idf, and what they have circled as a door and going in and out of the door, and general, can you talk about this, and how hamas uses these structures, and how that come pli kates the yerl effort -- ho complicates the efforts in that region. >> this is long developed by hamas to use long developed land warfare to bring global pressure against the israelis when they retaliated. so the tunnel at work has been built the hospitals, and this is the nexus of the tunnels. hamas did it deliberately. and now, the israelis are under international law. they cannot bomb hospitals. they have not bombed this hospital, but they do have the right to self-defense. they have the go in

>> joining us is retired general of the allied supreme commander wesley clark. so how much of a threat are u.s. interests under by the houthi rebels inside of yemen with the missiles they have? >> there's always the risk that something could go wrong with the defenses. there's always the risk that you'd lose a ship to some mistake, some mall funs, no. as of now, we have domination in the seas in that area. we can protect ourselves, and we're in good shape, but the risk is always there. >> so, general, we are waiting for word on today, the fourth scheduled hostage release by hamas terrorists today. if that takes place, perhaps another extension of a day or two in the pause of fighting. as these hostage releases continue, what are hamas and israel doing inside of gaza in temperatures of the fighting forces? >> well, obviously, hamas is rearming, resting its troops, and figuring out where the israelis are planning the ambushes, and infiltrating the fighters back into the north to be able to come up in the rear of the israeli forces. the israeli forces are securityi

with us now is general wesley clark, former nato supreme ally commander. general we're talking about the operation that continues to take place around the al shifa hospital. the israeli troops have control of the hospital and they're searching through it. they've produced images of weapons they say they found there and they say they found evidence of a hamas command center but no evidence of tunnels underneath at this point. why do you think that is? >> if i were the israelis, john, i would be cautious about going into the tunnels. there's been a lot of discussion about it, so hamas knows the israelis are coming. those tunnels are likely to be booby trapped at the entrance inside, no telling what's in those tunnels. so they've got to move step by step to go into this area. they said they found numerous entrances, they found weapons up there you know under international law, you cannot defend a hospital like that and be in it when -- and resist because that makes the hospital a target. so what hamas is doing is already illegal. if the israelis say they're g

general wesley clark joins us now.is a military analyst and former nato supreme allied commander. general, thank you for joining us. i want to get your reaction to this new op-ed. the president calls the united states a, quote, essential nation and says the world looks to us to solve the problems of our time. that is the duty of leadership and america will lead, for if we walk away from the challenges of today the risk of conflict could spread and the cost to address them will only rise. we will not let that happen. is he right, first of all, to link the conflict in ukraine and the middle east and is he correct that the u.s. should take a leading role here? >> i believe he is correct in linking the conflict in the middle east and ukraine. russia has a strategic relationship with iran. iran is the source of the current problems in the region, in the middle east, and so iran is also supplying weapons to russia to attack ukraine, but it is broader than that. i mean putin wants disorder. he wants chaos in the international

>> let's dig deeper now with general wesley clark. he's a senior military analyst and former nato supreme allied commander. general clark, thank you so much for sharing part of your afternoon with us. israel had already been conducting pauses in its military operations over the last several days. walk us through your thinking about why this has become a formalized process that was announced by john kirby from the white house. what kind of impact, do you think, also, that will have on the battlefield? >> well, it's clearly a response to pressure, but it's also common sense. the israeli forces are in there. they've established themselves on the battlefield. they would like to get the civilians out of the way. this has been their objective from the dping, as to persuade the state civilians to leave. so now, they're dealing with both issues successfully. they're opening a humanitarian corridor, they're going to expand it, so it's specific parts of northern gaza, for a period of time each day, but they're collecting intelligence. obviously

retired general wesley clark is with us as well. general clark, when you see these extraordinary images coming in of this intense israeli air assault, the new ground incursion into gaza, what do you think is taking place right now? >> oh, they're moving to an escalatory phase, wolf. they're going to go deeper in. they may insert by helicopter to seize more ground. they're getting targets -- they're not just bombing buildings without targets. so they're collecting communications. they're watching movements. they have targets. and they intend to get this over with. it's not like going to be like mosul where they take nine months. they're not going to do that. as they evaluate it, they're willing to put greater risk on the civilians in order to accomplish their military objectives than perhaps we would have. >> when i was briefed earlier today but a senior israeli military officer, general, this officer said this is going to go on for a while, don't expect this war to go on just a few more days or even a few more weeks. they're thinkin

and wesley clark, former nato allied supreme commander. romy, the idf founded confident that there was a command and control center at al-shifa. they've shown this tunnel shaft they say they've found you. confident there is more? >> yes. the idf is not really raiding the hospital. as you can see, there is no real fighting in the hospital. they are delicately going through the hospital and through its basement and the trying to reveal the tunnels which are underneath this hospital. that's strengthen the claim is two things. first of all, there was a body of one of the hostages that was murdered in the gaza strip after the 7th of october in an adjacent building to the hospital. and they have also, what your correspondent has not said, also said have taken several bodies that are thought to be hostages to be checked in israel, to be verified as they are or they're not hostages. you've seen in the pictures, they found arms. they found all kinds of weaponry in the hospital. and it seems at the end of the day, we will see, we will justify the cl

. >>> let's go back to nic in sderot and retired general wesley clark. general clark, you're talking about proportionality and necessity. can you just talk about that a little bit, just from a military standpoint. in all wars when there are civilians around and there are targets of that are believed to be of military necessity, there are calculations essentially done about how valuable is the target, what is the risk of civilian loss, and how much civilian loss is acceptable. and these are horrible calculation, but these are calculations that armies make during war. a situation like this operating on the grounds on a hospital has got to be extraordinarily difficult. >> sure. and you're exactly right, anderson, about the way you cast it. you know what the target is, you know how valuable it is, you try to estimate what the risks are of hurting civilians, and then you have to make the judgment of whether the target, going after the target, taking out the target is worth the risk of injuring people who are innocent and not part of the enemy force. but here

nic robertson, thank you wesley clark, thank you. coming up next, my conversation with parents of a son who is still being held hostage. we believe last seen with his half of his left arm blown off being loaded into a pick up truck. later, a day unlike most if not many at the capitol, republican voted to oust kevin mccarthy saying mccarthy elbowed him in the coming in the halls of congress. an n npr repororter side and jos usus. >> israel's military operation tonight al-shifa hospital in gaza city is aimed at idf spokesman a moment ago told me specific target within the hospital compound, a large compound, natural overrunning the entire facility, he said. this is coming with negotiations underway to try to secure the release of some 240 hostages still being held. no word on exactly who's being held or how many. the red cross has not been allowed to visit any of these hostages. earlier today president biden expressed opposition about those talks. >> i've been talking about, them people involved everything will, day i believe it's gonn

general wesley clark, always great to have you on. thank you so much. kate?>> coming up for us, the latest read on the u.s. economy and the jobs report and the jobs market, that latest read is just in. we have that for you in the context around what it means. >>> plus, eric trump back on the stand. he is soon going to be prapg up his testimony in the fraud trial against his family. >>> next up after that, donald trump himself, what's that going to mean? we will be back. >>> so are is the u.s. jobs market cooling off in a real way? that's a question today. the latest jobs report just released showing 150,000 jobs were added in october, that is lower than september's stronger than expected total, and slightly lower than what economists were actually anticipating for this time around. the unemployment rate ticked higher to 3.9%. let's try to make sense of it all. cnn's rahel solomon has much more and is here with us. take us inside the report. what are you watching? >> i feel the pressure now, kate. >> all on you. >> how many times have you and i talked about in

this is general wesley clark, cnn military analyst. good to have you. i want to start, before i ask a question, we have gotten an update from israeli officials on the number of hostages they believe are still being held by hamas. that is 201. they know that this is inconsistent with the number that has happened before. the numbers, as you know and our viewers can understand, fluctuate based on information coming in. israel believes there are 201 hostages taken october 7 who are still in gaza. let me ask you about the strategy moving forward and what the military is gaining and losing during this period. the surveillance drones for a period are not flying over gaza. they are not bombing the tunnels as they have been for seven weeks. at the end of this truce, is it a net gain or loss as it relates to the mission of ending hamas? they will lose potentially some intelligence but gain some from the hostages. what do you see we get at the end of this from the israeli perspective? >> i think from the military perspective in israel, it's a net loss. military in

welcome our next guest, cnn military analyst and former nato supreme allied commander general wesley clarksly, we've been watching some of these -- some of these images here. there was a question of how, perhaps, intense strikes would be in the leadup to the actual moment this truce took effect and so we're expecting it to begin at 3:00 a.m. eastern time and this precedes my question, but what do you think will happen leading up to that moment? >> first of all, i think the strikes will be as intense as israel has targets for. there will be no slacking off until the exact moment of the truce, and i'm sure this was an issue that was really hammered out in the cabinet. i'm sure there were voices saying you can't give a truce. you've got to go through with this. you've got to finish the job against hamas, and so the israeli military will be pressing to do as much as they can. during the truce period, omar, they will still have the right to self-defense and you call it a truce, it could be called a pause. it could be called a temporary ceasefire, but whatever you call it, there's no enforcement

joining us now to discuss this and more cnn military analyst wesley clark and middle east negotiator aaron david miller. thank you for joining me this evening. general clark, even if this pause is extended, we do expect israel to start its military operations again. do you think that the united states is increasing its pressure on how israel's military should conduct its activities going forward given this extraordinary level of death and destruction we've seen? >> well, i think there's a lot of pressure on israel not only from the united states but from others to somehow contain the level of destruction. go after hamas. do it in some other way. somehow get rid of the problem, but don't kill so many. don't damage, don't destroy gaza the way you've destroyed it. that pressure is real. it's on israel, and the israeli military is well aware of it and trying to implement it, but that's a very tall order. it's very difficult to go after hamas, hiding in civilian buildings behind hostages and other things, and not use kinetic means. >> aaron, we have seen and heard clear discomfort from wi

also, retired general wesley clark, cnn military analyst and nato supreme allied commander. -- the idf said they were confident recent days that there was a commanding control center in al-shifa. they have shown this tunnel shaft, that he said they have found. are you confident there is more? >> yes. the idf has, it is not really rating the hospital. as you can see, there is not a lot of fighting in the hospital. because, they are delicate -- and they don't kitley go through the, hospital in through its basement. and, they are trying to repeal the tunnels which are underneath this hospital. what does strengthen the claim that -- first of all, there was a problem of one of the hostages, and there was -- in the gaza strip. after the 7th of october, in an adjacent building too -- . and also they have what your correspondent has not said, that they also said that they have taken several bodies that are thought to be hostages, two -- and israel's right to verified, as they are if they are -- you have seen the pictures, they have found arms, and they have found all kinds of weaponry in the h