it is is over the air waves as wespeak. we are behind the 8-ball. think we should advertise that we tapped into murk el's phone every once in a while. they are five steps ahead of us, the computers that they pass were people they are watching, foreign, they are watching that could go harm to us. i think gary is right. this is open field, they kind of have to figure it out. >> jonas, they are tapping out, too. >> let them tap out. i think the president went too far, actually. it's the use of the data and the safety in protecting data from hackers. though, we should be focusing on the actual collection of all this dat i think it's economically the cheapest what i to fight a lot of our problems with terrorism and other things. to gary's point, we haven't seen an abuse of the use of it. yeah, they're checking a lot of da that. i can't imagine going through data and see we can go through text message force the last three years. why would we want tt da to? look what target did with our data. i would rather have the cia and nsa in charge of this and not fa