in islam the creation of the nation of israel in one nine hundred forty seven divided the city west jerusalem was deemed part of israel and the east put under jordanian control that lasted until the six day war in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven when israeli troops seized east jerusalem that half of the city was put on the israeli occupation ever since despite the un declaring the israeli invasion illegal . let's bring in our guests for today's discussion joining us from amman in jordan is. a political analyst and senior fellow with the institute for palestine studies from jerusalem which joined by robi sable a former legal advisor to israel's foreign ministry and professor of international law at hebrew university and also jeffrey aaronson resident scholar at the middle east institute he specializes in the arab israeli conflict he joins us from washington d.c. gentlemen welcome to you will jeffrey we'll start with you first this was an amendment to an existing law that the knesset passed what do you make of it well in its practical effect i think it's left to be determined i think more

americans are going to move their embassy to jerusalem they're going to move their embassy to west jerusalem and drew some has been the top of the of israel for seventy years now it's not recognised by the international community because the international community has believed that the drizzle mission needs to be resolved in a negotiated agreement between the jews and the arabs the israelis and the palestinians but i don't think the american move or their embassy is really going to change anything on the ground didn't mind what it does is it pushes up the urgency of reaching an agreement because the jerusalem issue is so sensitive and so much a core of the israeli palestinian relationship that we need to resolve the issue of jerusalem even in the knesset yesterday the arab palestinian arab members of knesset held up a sign which in english said jerusalem is the capital of palestine but in arabic it said east jerusalem they were very quickly whisked out of that room into which mr pamphlett sad that he believed that that was a sign of democracy believe it or not that those people were forcibl

i remember distinctly remembering that this was the wall that separated the east and west jerusalem. and this was no man's land here. >> my family lived in jerusalem for centuries. in 1948 the state was pounded, and for the palestinians this time was called the catastrophe. like many palestinians, my father and his entire family were pushed out of their ancestral home. they moved to a small apartment in east jerusalem because the city was divided into aa jewish and an arab city. and in 1967, the six-day war happened when the israelis invaded jerurusalem anand conqu it. we have lived under the israeli occupation ever since, always longing to go back to our ancestral homes. >> and my father's story that we left the home that he was born in and his father, etc., always was with us. >> whenever i walk here i feel as though i'm walking with a shiver in my body. like i feel at home. they used to have the stables down there. and actually, this is my father's room right there. for threes three years i would say easily 50-year-old trees. because my father, when he came here, he said he remembe

americans are going to move their embassy to jerusalem they're going to move their embassy to west jerusalem and drusilla has been the top of the of israel for seventy years now it's not recognized by the international community because the international community has believed that the drop zone issue needs to be resolved in a negotiated agreement between the jews and the arabs the israelis and the palestinians but i don't think the american move or their embassy is really going to change anything on the ground didn't mind what it does is it pushes up the urgency of reaching an agreement because the drilling issue is so sensitive and so much a core of the israeli palestinian relationship that we need to resolve the issue of jerusalem even in the knesset yesterday the arab palestinian arab members of knesset held up a sign which in english said jerusalem is the capital of palestine but in arabic and said east jerusalem they were very quickly whisked out of that room into which mr pound sad that he believed that that was a sign of democracy believe it or not that those people were forcibly tak

should be the final status issue in particular of course your resume is divided between east and west jerusalem and east jerusalem is most certainly not part of israel so you're not having much luck changing the british government's position with diplomacy is not about insisting in diplomacy is about talking and i'm hopeful that britain will recognise jerusalem as the capital of israel and you say it's not about insisting on prime minister was washington decision he hopped on a plane to brussels and tried to strongarm the european union and doing the same thing as washington think everyone should do the same thing because ultimately to recognise. them the number that you need to see the world as you see it they don't see israel as you see it can't you accept that i wouldn't use that language told them it was time they recognise the facts that are strong stronger than i think i think it is the facts that the truth is true slim has been the capital of the state of israel since the. it's been the captain of the jewish people for some three thousand years anyone who denies the jewish connection to

quite clearly didn't take he said it's not your capital jerusalem is divided between east and west jerusalem east jerusalem is most certainly not part of israel you can get it much clearer than that but if the opinion of some international community that everything over the sixty seven line is open for negotiation then i lost the following question jerusalem is israel's capital not for ninety six or seven from one hundred forty nine what is the problem in recognizing two islam as israel's capital it's recognizing reality where you if you talk to the british government which i assume is your role then you will know exactly what the problem was because they told you and i disagree with their analysis and so this is not going anywhere is it i mean this this is part of the trump playbook that your government is using isn't that you reject all criticism you double down on whatever actions cause that criticism in the first place and you know that when criticism isn't just a part i think it's within our right to stand up and say we disagree with the criticism you know care what the rest of the worl

the czech republic would be happy to recognize east jerusalem as the capital of palestine in west jerusalem as the capital of israel i think this is in fact the official position of russia as will that in the future in an agreement on a two state solution that could be the capital public start in west jerusalem the capital of israel well that's the position of many countries the irony and the shame is that no country is making a decisive step to make that theoretically arrangement in reality mr busking we have to take a very short break now but we'll be back in just a few minutes stay tuned. yes i was pretty good with the market but you. can't remove the last. word so we'll move the young to my wall so you will find you know one of the up and stuff and we will push it out so. i'm going to do the. scots move you to coax beliefs now t.g.v. easy show reason you judged. it was more than a bunch. of the proceeds go to the imus show do you can you get other counties up when you. did so missed all my suspension of us they. are. when gold make its manufacture consent to public wealth. when the ruli

the czech republic would be happy to recognize east jerusalem as the capital of palestine and west jerusalem as the capital of israel i think this is in fact the official position of russia as well that in the future in an agreement on a two state solution that could be the capital published in west jerusalem the capital of israel well that's the position of many countries and the the irony and the shame is that no country is making a decisive step to make that theoretically arrangement in reality mr busking we have to take a very short break now but we'll be back in just a few minutes stay tuned. this is kentucky. boy you people are going to vary. a coma any city with no coal mines left. the jobs are gone all the coal miners the said that that was a. these people are survivors of a world disappearing before their eyes. i remember thinking when i was younger that if anything ever happened to the coal mines here that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in a million years i would see the and it's how it's happened to. us. tax ties or financial survival the stacy let's learn a sala

post joins me now from our bureau in west jerusalem good to have you with us mr hoffman if the palestinians are saying as they have that they want to stop security coordination with israel and they want all ties severed with any state that recognizes jerusalem as the capital of israel and transfers its embassy to it what impact is that going to have on palestinian policy in terms of moving forward. those doses harm the palestinian people tremendously that security cooperation that there's been with israel since the mid one nine hundred ninety s. results in there being order in the west bank results and palestinians being able to work and live their lives with the israeli security forces and the palestinian security security forces working together cooperating and protecting them and the palestine liberation organization as it is that wants to wipe israel off the map deciding that it won't cooperate with israel anymore doesn't hurt israel in any way it only hurts its own people do you think there are going to be any repercussions for the israeli governm

well let's get more on this now we're joined by correspondent terry forth he's live for us in west jerusalem so what are we expecting from this visit harry and what's the likely the likely substance of discussions between pence and netanyahu. well as far as both men have been trailing these talks they will be about wider regional security as well as what could potentially happen in any efforts to try and resuscitate the priest process between the israelis and the palestinians given the reaction that we've just been hearing about that the palestinians have given to this highly controversial move by donald trump in recognizing druce them as the capital of israel the israeli prime minister last night ahead of these talks so that they would be about two things about peace and security he said that anybody who did not want to sit down with the united states as the main sponsor of any peace process was not serious obviously addressing that directly to mahmoud abbas the palestinian president and he said that they would talk more generally about regional security issues he of course is very focused

malcolm webb who's in guard service first let's cross over to mohamed jump you he's live for us in west jerusalem now the key question mohammed is what will the prime minister do next with this decision. that's what everybody is wondering right now sami the fact of the matter is the prime minister netanyahu has not issued any statement as not given any kind of reaction to this vote that took place last night one of the more interesting aspects about the run up to this vote is that before it happened many members of the likud central committee had hoped that prime minister netanyahu would actually show up for their conference last night for that meeting where the vote took place in the run up to it in the hours before it there were reports in some media outlets here that in fact the prime minister would be attending that didn't happen and then the fact that that he didn't make any kind of statement leaving a lot of people to wonder is this something that mr netanyahu supports or is he against it now the fact that he actually allowed the vote go through that he didn't try to block it leads some to

secular slowing still means a passing cars in the village of the ram hard force that has more from west jerusalem israeli military saying that this man this thirty five year old man was shot from a passing vehicle by a gunman or gunmen on route sixty inside the occupied west bank nearby the illegal outpost of how about gilad it's reported that this man was a rabbi and a more held that is a religious figure who carries out who is qualified to carry out circumcision so he is someone obviously of some standing within the community north and south korea have agreed to hold military talks after the first high level meeting in two years the north korea has rejected source requests to discuss the nuclear eyes in the korean peninsula. regarding the nuclear issues and strategic weapons including its home and bombs the hydrogen bombs and intercontinental ballistic missiles are aimed only at the united states nor britain turkey's foreign ministry has summoned the ambassadors of iran and russia to protest against the violation of the so-called deescalation zone in syria turkey is reportedly accusing syrian t

law and therefore it will be able to split the jewish part of jerusalem from the arab part keep west jerusalem for israel and turn over is jerusalem including those neighborhoods which you mentioned to be. do you see this as a green light do you expect the israeli authorities to take action now is sooner rather than later that the new law has been passed or is it simply that the fence mechanism for themselves. well up to now the israeli authorities under prime minister netanyahu have been quite fearful of global reaction including president trumps and they have not tried to go for any settlement activities not only in the west bank but even in east jerusalem they know that if the security council. to convene and act on a resume lucian's against israel doing anything the united states will not always to be to such a resolution so they speak quite harshly but do very little and what kind of reaction are you expecting could palestine are they looking at retaliation measures politically is there any way they could overturn the decision what does ramallah to. jerusalem has become a code word in isr

thank you for your thoughts your reaction really than foresight and west jerusalem well as he was saying the palestinian president has been in brussels where the e.u. has reassured him it supports is ambition to have east jerusalem as the capital of a palestinian state but abbas has been holding talks with the foreign policy chief at the rick perry any and your pain foreign ministers here just european union nations to recognize the state of palestine. here you're only nor can we pay all due respect to the positions of the european union we truly consider the e.u. as a partner in free and therefore we call its member states to swiftly recognize the state of palestine and we confirm that there is no contradiction between recognition and the resumption of negotiations let's get more on this with al-jazeera senior political analyst mon bashar when there was almost a challenge the sooner palestinians accept the truth the sooner that except to the capital is where the capital is now in jerusalem and even the mention of jarrah krishna who we all were talking about last year was going to be bri

now we've got our imran khan standing by in garza but first let's hear from harry forsett in west jerusalem there's an salient points harry he's committed obviously we haven't heard any think new. that has not already been said by the american administration but he did commit his long term support of israel as we know america always would he is strongly urging the palestinians to come to the negotiating table which receives warm applause he also pointed the finger at iran and made it very clear what the united states had in store for the country if it didn't change its ways as far as its concerned. what's new about what mike pence had to say. well those one clear news line which has cleared up the issue at least in terms of the u.s. intent on the embassy the embassy currently in tel aviv and the vow to move it here to jerusalem he said that would take place by the end of next year twenty nineteen now that is a difference from what benjamin netanyahu said in india last week when he said that it would come here within a year the there's an expectation so the americans had talked about a maxim

governing and being responsible for a million palestinians in the newly occupied gaza strip west bank and jerusalem to could vote six months to. nearly. all those. most in the west bank and then they came back and they said. there was other people there and they haven't there's not a movement. so what do we do if there are we we conquer them and create. a state or we huff the loaf to move a predominantly jewish state called israel and the west bank and gaza should be a basis for future negotiations. dition of their rights to have a state of their own the viable state of the old in the west bank and gaza. what israel chose was and still remains the first option. in the aftermath of the war israel declared what it cooled the unification of jerusalem. the entire holy city was placed under israeli jurisdiction including christian and muslim holy sites. we are the government and the only government in the area that is just a goods we have obligations and privileges and duties dare obligation and fairly still maintain law and order and to provide the people with services and away she to believe standard

president is meeting with the european union but first how the force that joins me now live from west jerusalem we may you could say how he that we've heard a lot of this before but he was very clear on certain points especially the embassy and he got a very warm welcome from knesset members. yeah i mean we may have heard some of this language before indeed as you say a lot of it but that the way it was concentrated so much in this very significant location and the way in which he allied the current us administration so closely with the current israeli administration was really remarkable to behold as you say there was this. protest a stand up of the israeli palestinian members that the joint arab lest some shouting slogans that jerusalem is the capital of palestine and then there was there was some scuffling as they were taken out of the knesset and that extended out here into the corridors outside as well at one stage an israeli member of the knesset who has a reputation for staging public showdowns in order to be on camera it seemed all of the time he was constantly shouting at one of those

at a time when there already is so much of him and so much uncertainty ok mama gem dreams in west jerusalem thank you for all of that let's put some of it to isaac herzog joining us from tel aviv he is the labor party chairman he is also the official leader of the opposition in the knesset we thank you for your time you voted against this bill is that correct thank you sir. yes when the opposition voted against the bill but i want to add a few elements to the report of your a. correspondent first of all this bill can be rescinded with a simple majority of sixty one and that's made clear in the bell and secondly the issue of the neighborhoods of jerusalem whether they should be jerusalem proper or is something actually that emanates from the opposition for quite some time we say for quite some time that some of these villages have nothing to do with jerusalem per se they were included originally in one nine hundred sixty seven as part of a greater jerusalem but they actually are aligned on this is that it allows certain flexibility in the future as to issues pertaining to the palestinian pop

commitment to recognizing jerusalem as the country's capital i'm sorry faucet joining us from west jerusalem the the israeli arab politicians had said prior to my pencil speech that they were going to boycott that speech and and they really made their point. that's right we thought at first that they weren't even going to turn up but then it became clear was speaking to some of them before the speech got underway that they wanted to do something demonstrably and in public inside the knesset hall and that's what they did they they provided a very clear message of opposition and defiance towards the u.s. position on jerusalem and they did so by standing up by by shouting that jerusalem is the capital of palestine and as you see there were those scuffles within the hall and there were scuffles out here or at least there was some shouting and argy bargy out here in the corridor as well those of a rather notorious israeli a member of the knesset a right winger who is known for very public stunts such as this he shouted down a one of the israeli palestinian and k.'s jamal's. calling him a terroris

west jerusalem, capital of israel. mike pence was given a warmer welcome by israeli prime minister netanyahu, and was unrepentant. he said the u.s. was only recognizing fact over fiction as a worst step toward new peace negotiations between israelis and palestinians. vice president pence: the united states appreciates your government's declared willingness to resume peace negotiations with the palestinian authority. but today, we strongly urge the palestinian leadership to return to the table. peace can only come through dialogue. mark: it is a dialogue that palestinian authority is avoiding, at least with the u.s.. palestinian present mahmoud abbas refused to meet pence, traveling to brussels to try to convince europe to take a stand in this conflict. >> we consider the european union a true partner and friend. we therefore call on its member states to swiftly recognize the state of palestine. there is no contradiction between the recognition of palestine and their assumption -- the resumption of peace negotiations. m

areas would be an it could be any of those dark red areas let's talk to our correspondent in west jerusalem on this one talk to us mohammed first of all about where this goes on the israeli side further into the knesset. welcome all that really is the big question today look this vote that happened yesterday it was interesting the run up to it for several reasons number one in the days leading up to it you had members of the likud central committee stating to the press here that this was actually a binding vote meaning that they believed that them voting on this referendum and that if it passed that would mean that prime minister benjamin netanyahu as well as other likud members would then be compelled to take this referendum to take it to take it then to the knesset here in trying to get it passed into law in fact the matter is we spoke to many analysts yesterday and this is not a binding resolution that's been borne out after the vote even goes then you started seeing people here talking about the fact that that vote that the resolution was not binding it was largely symbolic it was reall

israel's capital all settlements are illegal under international law ari force it has more from west jerusalem. well these announcements often contain a very complex series of numbers and this one is no different seven hundred seventy of these new settlement units are being announced at one stage of this lengthy complex layered process of planning approvals the remainder at the next stage of the process and there are more stages the process after that so it's often hard to get a real handle on exactly what is being announced at any one time and that can serve the israeli government because it has to satisfy right wing coalition members that the process of the groups more generally so being able to make these announcements several times a year as they do can be politically expedient it's never clear exactly how many are entirely new how many are being rian out but the the activist group peace now which monitors settlement construction in the occupied west bank says that there are eleven hundred twenty two of these units being announced across the west bank and more than half of them well away f

president president and west jerusalem came through just a short time ago appends became the first u.s. president to address the knesset on monday his speech was chaired. i must spend most of parliament but i called by israeli palestinian m.p. as well as get more on this was a valid sponsor for setting us live for us from occupied east jerusalem how was this visit being covered by local media there harry. today is very much that the last of the greats climax as far as many israelis are concerned at the speech that he gave i spent vice president pence to the knesset yesterday the reviews that came in from the israeli cabinet were incredibly positive from the prime minister himself calling it a magnificent speech and we've seen similar kind of stuff in the israeli media as well as you say he's just started his meeting with president reagan rivlin he is no great political ally of prime minister and you know but it shows the breadth of support that there has been across this really political spectrum for what's being analyzed is a speech very different from those of previous u.s. administr

last month that the united states was recognizing jerusalem as israel's capital and fourteen palestinians have been killed in the unrest in the occupied west bank and gaza since then last week trump threatened to cut off aid to the palestinians and said jerusalem was off the negotiating table are false it has more from west jerusalem. well the israeli military says that this thirty five year old man a rabbi from the illegal outpost of about gilad just southwest of nablus in the occupied west bank that he was in his vehicle on route sixty the main road near that illegal outpost where he lived and he was shot dead from a by a from a passing vehicle the military not saying whether it was one gunman or more but there are reports that twenty two bullets struck the vehicle that he was shot in the neck and chest taken to hospital where he was then pronounced dead at the military responded by declaring a military zone southwest of nablus israeli soldiers entering two villages tel and sorrow there were confrontations with local palestinians in those villages before the military the soldiers withdrew to the entrances of the villages they also carrie

capital of israel we'll get to our panel in just a moment but first harry forsett reports from west jerusalem. on the day he would become the first u.s. vice president to address israel's parliament the knesset mike pence was greeted with almost presidential ceremony by israel's prime minister it didn't take long to return the favor by a great offer to be out of the president's state of the be. israel's capital jerusalem. it was a description of jerusalem that pence would repeat three times during his set piece event. because before he was interrupted by israeli palestinian members of the knesset decrying the u.s. position and any prospect of u.s. involvement in the peace process there in force departure cleared the way for pens to speak to two other audiences israelis and u.s. evangelical christians for whom the jerusalem declaration was a major campaign pledge in the weeks ahead our administration will advance its plan to open the united states embassy in jerusalem. and that united states embassy will open before the end of next year pence's said that his faith largely determines his longst

with an east jerusalem must be the capital of palestine and west jerusalem the capital of israel. clearly there is a problem with the result of the european state continue to believe that the only problem i think realistic solution which of those eleven has to come out of member stations and so that has to be the capital of the state. also coming up tonight germany is moving closer to a new government but one young leader among the social democrats considers sharing power with chancellor angela merkel to be something like the kiss of death for his party. we don't want it but we have to do it and that's the endless loop we've been in for so many years and comrades that logic must be broken. or we begin the day with tents and the palestinians today palestinian president mahmoud abbas met with european union foreign ministers in brussels abbas is on a mission seeking more support from europe he has rejected the u.s. as a peace mediator ever since u.s. president donald trump recognized jerusalem as the capital of israel back in december but europe refuses to go that far saying that wo

the czech republic would be happy to recognized east jerusalem as the capital of palestine and west jerusalem is the capital of israel i think this is in fact the official position of russia as well that in the future in an agreement on a two state solution that is true some could be the capital palestine and western as in the capital of israel well that's the position of many countries and the the irony and the shame is that no country is making a decisive step to make that theoretically arrangement in reality mr busking we have to take a very short break now but we'll be back in just a few minutes stay tuned. join me every thursday on the alec simon show and i'll be speaking to guest on the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see you then. hey everybody i'm stephen both gosh i'm a task hollywood guy you know suspect every proud american first of all i'm just george bush and r.v.'s to suggest this is my buddy max famous financial guru when he's a little bit different i'm not a abraham lincoln lawyer no no no no the up with all the drama happening in our country i'm hitting t

the czech republic would be happy to recognize east jerusalem as the capital of palestine in west jerusalem as the capital of israel i think this is in fact the official position of russia as will that in the future in an agreement on a two state solution that could be the capital public started westroads on the capital of israel well that's the position of many countries be they are any and the shame is that no country is making a decisive step to make that theoretically arrangement in reality mr busking we have to take a very short break now but we'll be back in just a few minutes. all to say we have a great team but we need to strengthen before the free float world cold and you're better than a legend to keep it so it's at the back. in one thousand nine hundred two that not qualify for the european championships at the very last moment no one believed in us but we won and. hoping to bring some of that winning spirit to the arts through three. recently i've had a lot of practice so i can guard see that peter schmeichel will be on the best fall since my last will call him unless stores are

israel's capital the settlements are illegal under international law forces joins us now from west jerusalem it's always a complex in lengthy series of approvals for these units what do these numbers actually mean heavy. that's right it is an extremely complex process for instance in this group of numbers these eleven hundred twenty two settlement units seven hundred seventy of them are being approved at one stage of the process of the remainder being approved at the next stage of the process and there are more stages there are to some extent that can serve the israeli government politically because it has to satisfy a right wing coalition members who are very pro settler it has to satisfy or try to satisfy often critical settler groups more generally you accuse the government of not doing enough in terms of settlement construction and facilitating life for settlers in the occupied west bank and so making these announcements several times a year as it does can be a politically expedient thing to do nonetheless we have these eleven hundred twenty two new units being announced the activist gro

to clear the area to the south west of nablus a military zone how a force that has more from west jerusalem.