host: that is bill, west virginia. west virginians are encouraged to call and talk about the by your senator on build back better. louisiana, independent line. caller: good morning. actually, i am calling on the republican line. host: well, this is the independent line. are you an independent or republican? caller: i am a republican. host: ok, i'm going to let you go. i'm going to ask you to call back on the republican line if you can because we try to keep the lines partisan in the sense that it best represents you. go ahead and try again and call in on the republican line. noel in new york, republican line. caller: good morning, pedro. first, let me say how much i miss brian lamb. he was a great moderator. about this joe manchin vote, i am sure my democrat friends will be excited to understand that somebody in the republican party of the senate will give joe biden his wish on this. we have had a lot of rino's on the republican side. i feel sorry for the country for going through what it is going through. host: for se

eric eyre how unique is mud lick west virginia and what happened to it? >> it is a really small community there is about 30 residents outlive their and to show you how small it is, it took me a while to figure out how to spell it i heard mud lick is one word in mud lick as two words and i actually had to call the sheriff's office in wayne county to figure out exactly how to spell it and she says it's two words but don't worry there's only 30 people that live there and they won't be reading your book. it's a typical hollow and west virginia and between the mountains, that is where the overdose that started this whole story and this all occurred with the overdose on oxycontin it's very small and very rural. >> at one point did 12 million oxycontin arrived in the count of 30 residents reads alert? >> it really raised alerts we had to go to court to unseal some documents, there was a modified complaint that was filed in circuit court in a case of the distributors, west virginia versus the drug distributors and these are companies that shift onto chip opioids

it starts out in the fields of west virginia. a coalminer die seven oxycontin overdose. it explains the title. the aaron brockovich type of character. she decides not becoming another statistic. she connects with a lawyer. back to when she was arrested on drug conspiracy charges. the two of them get together and they first off go against the doctor that describes oxycontin. then they file against the pharmacy and then they go to other pharmacies. .... .... there. in the question where are all these painkillers coming from she did know if they're coming from gps or express or the united states postal service, she actually took it upon herself to get in the car and follow some of the delivery checks and came around the county and she had the license >> and they were traced to accompany which turned out is one of the biggest opioid it distributors in the country and from there, and goes up and up and up the supply chain and now there's is kind of, the power ol news reporting, in particular, watchdog reporting, my stories started with a new attorney general elected and had s

west virginia or the country? sen.i couldn't believe -- i was very blessed with having good support from republicans, democrats, independents. i never got the far right or far left. i can understand that. we never ran our country or our states or politics from the far left or far right. i gave a speech one day the , first time we came back off covid to bethany college. their graduation, a beautiful little college in northern west virginia. i walked on the stage. they gave me a speech. i have good people who work with me. what do i say? you have been cloistered in for one year. and i had nothing on paper or nothing in my mind i was going to say as i walked to the podium. i'm thinking, man i don't know , what to say. i walked up and i apologized. i am sorry. i've been radicalized. they looked at me and i don't know how that came out that way. i said, i have been radicalized. i said, your grandparents have been radicalized. our generation was radicalized because we don't understand what is going on. you understand? i neve

it's running between the mountains in west virginia and along the creek, and that is where the base of the priest who started this whole story in this book over oxycontin, it is very very small and very rural. >> 12,012,000,000 oxycontin it in a town of 30 presidents arrived. >> it really raised alert suite actually and report to unseal some documents. this modified complaint filed in circuit court case that the state is the distributors as virginia versus the drug distributors and these are companies that ship the opioids from factories like f pretty far to pharmacies and so, their this whole case of this is being argued under seal hidden away from the public and they had when the early ultimately prevailed in part, we started to see these big numbers, main how is it possible that in three years, the community of near mud lick, called kermit, could absorb 12 million opioids, and kermit, west virginia and is just nott possible and what happening as people are driving from all over from kentucky, from ohio, north carolina and even as far away as florida to come to west virginia to buy p

but in west virginia i have to say that you have a situation where you have an independent pharmacy ape family-owned pharmacy distributing 30000 oxycontin pills or hydrocodone per month and then down the street just two blocks away there is a walgreens distributing 1000 oxycontin. so my guess is that when left to the chain pharmacies. >> so is it still being manufactured? >> . >> and that which was a decade ago. there has been a lot of education going on. education going on. curb the proliferation of oxycontin and hydrocodone. but yes they are still available to be prescribed. >> you are on booktv talking about the opioid epidemic. >> pertaining to what you just said, my question is that if the fda was to struggle if it was addiction and then in the long run but then the things that you lose in your life taking that meditation year in and year l out. host: how long we taking oxycontin and how did you get started? >> back in 1982 working in certain jobs as a therapist and i had back problems sometimes they give me hundred and 20 becauseme i would be fine for several me —- several months.

west virginia's covid czar dr. clay marsh has heard it all. dr.arsh: for the people that are worried about the speed of the messenger rna vaccines, these are among the safest and by far the most effective vaccines that have ever been produced. julia: about 10 months ago, marsh's home state was leading the nation in getting shots in arms, driven by the urgency to protect the state's aging population. with one in five residents over 64, marsh gave all pharmacies , big and small, the greenlight to give shots as soon as the vaccines were available. lynne fruth: i know that it is making a difference in this community. julia: pharmacy owner lynne fruth says that drove vaccination rates up at first. lynne fruth: i like to say we're first to worst as far as the vaccine. the state did a phenomenal job rolling out the initial vaccine. julia: which month did you see a visible downtick? lynne fruth: in may, it just dropped off a cliff. julia: the rush ended when every willing taker had been vaccinated. now, the focus is on the booster shots. >> you just got y

eric i who won a pulitzer prize for his reporting on opioids at mayo and now a reporter in west virginia and the author a coal country fight against the drug companies that develop the opioid epidemic. patrick, let me start with you in your devastating, absolutely devastating portrait of the family and their role in that opioid epidemic. can you give us a brief description of empire of pain and tell us what led you to write this book. >> absolutely first of i'm really humbled and honored to share a panel with the two of you and who have written such amazing stuff on this issue, the opioid crisis is so big as an issue that i feel different parts of it have been worked over by people in different ways there's great books on opioid crisis i wanted to look closely at the perpetrators so i was very interested in the family who owned purdue pharma connecticut pharmaceutical company that a lot of people with the tip of this. of the crisis the drug that started this on the road to where we are today. it is not in opioid crisis per se it's a broad look of three generations of the families of fami

host: that is bill, west virginia. st virginians are encouraged to call and talk about the decision from your senator on the old back better. from louisiana, independent line. caller: good morning. i am calling on the republican line. host: this is the independent line. are you an independent or republican? caller: i am a republican. host: i'm going to let you go. i'm going to ask you to call back on the republican line if you can because we try to keep the lines partisan in the sense that it best represents you. try again and call in on the republican line. noel in new york cannot republican line. caller: good morning. first, let me say how much i miss brian lamb. he was a great moderator. about this joe manchin vote, i am sure my democrat friends will be excited someone in the republican party of the senate will give joe biden his wish on this. we have had a lot of rino's on the republican side. i feel sorry for the country for going through what it is going through. host: for senator manchin's decision, what do you t

why did west virginia?e people are confused by that. >> in a nutshell they didn't think they'd get enough numbers from the national settlement. i've seen questions of 400 million from the national settlement and they think the state deserves more than that, and i think the people in the state feel the same way. we've got basically three different things going on. as you mentioned mdl part of a $26 billion settlement that's on the table and that's been moving forward. i think about 40 states have signed onto that and what they're doing now is working on the city's and the county to also sign up and i think they have two or three months to do that and then we have a bending case, capital huntington, huntington is the second largest state in west virginia. and that has concluded and they're waiting for a judge to make a decision. there's also something called the mass litigation panel, which is most of these other cities, 60-plus cities and towns and counties and school board, they're separate from the mdl. bu

it starts out in the southern fields of west virginia where a coalminer dies of an oxycontin overdose then his sister who is like this aaron brockovich type of character and decides she's not going to let her brother become another statistic. she's going to avenge his death and connects with a lawyer she had known for years when she was arrested on drug conspiracy charges. the two ofr them first file against the pharmacy and then they go to other pharmacies but it doesn't stop there. where do all these painkillers come from, she didn't know if they were coming from fed express or the postal service so she took it upon herself to get in the car and follow some of the delivery trucks that came around and had the license plate traced to a place called cardinal health. and from there, again they go up the supply chain and there's kind of a subplot to the power of local news reporting, in particular watchdog reporting. dmy story talked about the general elected and had the strongties to the pharmaceutical distributors and he inherited a loss filed by his predecessor. to sum it up, it took

manchin is representing the people of west virginia.cnn do a poll and you ask the people of west virginia whether or not they want to lower the cost of prescription drugs. you ask them whether they want to expand medicare, to cover dental, hearing and eye glasses. you ask them whether they want to continue the $300 payment to help working parents in these very difficult times bring up their kids with dignity. ask them if they want to deal with climate change. on all issues i suspect people like west virginia like every other state will say do the right thing for working families. i told manchin i'll pay for the damned poll in west virginia. see how the people of west virginia feel >> is there a strategy foorward a way to pass part of the legislation piecemeal, assuming joe manchin is one of 51 who vote against it? >> the problem you need 60 votes, no support from republicans to pass standing legislation. so it has to be done through reconciliation. so i haven't thought about that yet. but all i do know is that the dividing line in this

clinton in 2016 but now joins us respond to the hollywood elite. ♪♪ to the place ♪♪ i belong ♪♪ west virginiatte midler issues apology after firing off mean tweet about west virginians. todd: copley coal minerred from the state reacts. read the tweet for the viewers what joe manchin who represents a population smaller than brooklyn has done to the rest of america wants to move forward not backward like his state is horrible. he sold us out. he wants us all to be like his state, west virginia. here is the key line, poor, illiterate and strung out. what was your reaction when you first saw that? >> i think my first reaction was bette who? i don't recall anything she has done too significant here in the last little bit. but, you know, i don't think a lot of west virginians are losing sleep over it. only thing lose sleep over is getting up early and heading tout work. ashley: brooke, first off a girl from a long line of coal minors on both sides of my family i commend you for what you do. i do want to talk about joe manchin for a second. you said that you agree with the opposition to the bbb legi

joe manchin did what was common sense, laurence, which was in west virginia polls have president biden at 65% disapproval, three quarters of west virginiians oppose the build back better bill. if you're joe manchin, what else should you have done than say, you know what? if i'm against this, i'm sure if we spend trillions for, that will increase inflation more, we're at a 40-year high, we should press pause on this until we have a better idea of where we are from an economic perspective or an inflation perspective. but the administration tried to go ahead with this anyway, democrats did. and this is something they will rue the day they decided to go big on this instead of trying to get individual bills passed, laurence. shavings make a pile, get some little wins here and there on certain issues and then maybe build some momentum. instead, this is a calculation when we look back at this presidency, this was the end of it because they went too big and it was too big not to fail. >> then they called manchin a liar in the press release. joe biden is promised to be a moderate just like manc

if i can't go home and explain it to the people of west virginia, i can't vote for it. and i cannot vote to continue with this piece of legislation. i just can't. i've tried everything humanly possible. i can't get there. >> you're done, this is a no? >> this is a no. on this legislation. i have tried everything i know to do. >> his comments have sent shockwaves through capitol hill and beyond as reaction has been pouring in. earlier today multiple progressive lawmakers responded to senator manchin. >> there are six of us who have been saying this all along. we have been saying this for weeks that this would happen. >> not a huge shock, but i have caveat that with it's not over yet. >> one person that will hold up assistance to the american people is absolutely disgusting and amazing to me. if he wants to be that person that will stand up before the american people and deny assistance to the people of this country, put the bill up on the floor and let him vote it up or down. >> joining us now. welcome all. josh, you first here. is the build back better act effectively d

this is not birds in west virginia, not rockefeller's west virginia.u, congressman, and play this portion of hoppy's interview in which he asked about his future in the democratic party. >> i would like to hope there's still democrats that feel like i do. i'm fiscally responsible and socially compassionate. if there's democrats like that, and have to push me wherever they want me. >> i mean, if you are head of a 50/50 split in the senate, what do you hear there, congressman? >> i think democrats in congress better figure something out real fast. they need joe manchin a lot more than he needs them. bottom line, look, he is popular in west virginia, and i do think there are many democrats who feel as joe manchin does. they just don't -- many are not in congress. throughout west virginia and pennsylvania, i would argue there are plenty of moderate democrats that agree with what joe manchin is doing as moderate republicans. he speaks to the center of the country. he's much more aligned with most americans than his critics. as hoppy stated when bernie sande

too much money going the wrong direction. >> i think he has west virginia in his eyes. >> letting west for biden choices? >> kayleigh: a stand with joe manchin. i think we have some audio issues. tomi, it seems that these voters agree with joe manchin as we try to get chris bedford's mike up. >> tomi: they agree with joe manchin and they know he's putting them in their state first. all of the americans right now that are suffering. it's not people like bette midler that are suffering under joe biden. some people lake's nancy pelosi or anyone in hollywood or any of the hollywood elite. it's a middle class americans that are being pinched by the out-of-control spending and the lock down, shutdowns, mandates, infringements. those of the american struggling and those of the american spirit whether there democrat or republican. they're not going to vote for another democrat in 2022 or 2024. it's one thing to be a social media activist and type things on twitter to be to virtue single points. it's another to be in a grocery store or kitchen table and hear from real americans. >> kayleigh: un

pennsylvania's neighbor is west virginia. i know your district borders jersey, but knowing the region and the needs of the people in it, what's the impact of today's news from joe manchin? >> yeah. wonderful to be with you, and i've actually campaigned in southwestern pennsylvania right on the border with west virginia, and i can tell you whether it's southwestern pa or west virginia or northeast philadelphia or any spot or county in any of the 50 states, every single region, every single state of the country would benefit from the build back better act, but especially west virginia because frankly it is one of the poorest states in the union. you just look at the child tax credit, and that's just one of the many things that's in the bill. my district happens to benefit more than any other in the state of pennsylvania. 155,000 children in my district get that benefit. but there certainly are a lot of kids in rural pennsylvania and rural west virginia that also benefit from that as well. i also want to make one point. i went b

you hear on that radio and you're not in west virginia.part. diving down the road, i get a feeling... >> leaving and homecoming has always been something that west virginians have experienced, but we've been at a loss in our population since 1950. so i think it is a perennial mood for west virginians. >> reporter: including this one. i grew up in the capitol city of charleston. i learned to ride my bike on country roads. i left the state after high school, but i'm still nostalgic for it. all my memories gather around her. >> one of the things i've been thinking about is a welsh concept call hiraea. it is a deep longing for some place you can't quite name, that is home, but maybe more. it is maybe a place you've never been or the home you've only dreamed of. this deep pull-toward place. ♪♪ >> reporter: whatever home means to you, there is no place like it. ♪ to the place i belong ♪ >> the place, really, is inmaterial. it is the place i belong. >> reporter: like so many people, i didn't head home for the holidays in 2020, which has made retu

but west virginia has the largest coal jobs in the country. the largest amount of coal jobs in the country. the coal industry is incredibly powerful because it is one of the driving economic factors in creating jobs in that state. so, of course, as the senator from west virginia, he is going to be partial to the needs of the coal industry. so, you have to take that into consideration also. and recent polling shows that he is very popular in west virginia. he is over 60% approval righting in the state and over 60% of the people in west virginia support his position against build back better. so in this instance, joe manchin is doing a better job messaging why he is against build back better in its current form than the administration is doing in convincing people why he needs to vote for it. so, joe biden needs to demonstrate that he has a little bit more -- i think a little bit more humph behind his words here. everybody loves uncle joe but he needs to use the power of the presidency to demonstrate there are consequences if you go against what

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west virginia has the seventh highest child poverty rate in the country. virginia has a horrible climate conditions that need to be addressed. setor manchin is not talking about the people of west virginia or america, he is responding to big special interest and his donors. amy: congressmember bowman, it is often said he is the largest recipient of oil, gas, and call money of any senator in the country. but this point you're making about big pharma, on sunday, senator sanders accused manchin of not having the guts to take on pharmaceutical and other powerful special interest. manchin is long had his close relationship with big pharma. his daughter is the former president and ceo of the drug company mylan. during her time as ceo, she drew outrage when the company raised the price of its i've setting epipen used by millions rivers fiddle allergic reactions. she raised the cost of it by 400% most of she later received $31 million payout in her company gave massive contributions to her father, senator manchin. can you talk specifically about this? in fact, man

station in west virginia. we'll go there as well in a few moments. we're going to start in minneapolis. the closing arguments now underway in kim potter's trial. nbc's shaquille brewster remains camped outside that courthouse. shaq, the prosecution laying heavily into potter's experience and her training while on the force. what are some moments that stood out to you? >> well, the closing arguments are still underway right now. they are just about halfway through, it appears, of the arguments in. you hear as you mention, them leaning into the idea that this was an experienced officer. this is an officer who was on the force for 26 years and who knew the difference between a gun and a taser. and in -- what she calls a mistake in shooting daunte wright. the prosecution is saying they believe this is a mistake. they're not trying to say it was intentional, but in her mistake in him, she acted recklessly. that's the first degree count, or the second degree count she acted with negligence. they're walking the jury

joe manchin represents west virginia 29% of west virginia voters supported joe biden. 60% supported donald other realities pushing their massive piece of legislation with this slant of a majority is just not feasible paid the question is on voting rights whether there is some change and there we tried to get to the specifics of what he is for. >> i don't see a lot of budgeting for joe manchin or senator sinema on change in the filibuster aim for voting rights. i think one of the lessons here and it's been true of both parties as there is a tendency to overreach. you think you have a bigger mandate than you do you act accordingly then you pay a price pretty think of seeing a cycle of both parties repeating that mistake over the last decade or so. bret: how do they sell this coming out of the loss how was it sold? >> that got to go back to what were talking about. focusing on the court popular elements of the bill, repackaging and putting it out there. talking about that again they lost a month's of controlling the narrative by allowing it to be over a number over a price tag instead of what

now west virginia is ruby red, voted for trump by 40 points. but 68% of west virginians support biden's build back better plan. here is what some of them said today. >> it's inconceivable that at christmas time especially that he would leave 350,000 children in west virginia and their families without the certainty that they will have enough money to pay the christmas bills >> i can barely put gas in my car now as it is. i mean, anything, any other drastic steps would alter west virginia at all right now is just kind of scary. >> senator schumer today vowing to still bring the bill to the floor for a vote in january. other democrats are eying a slimmed down package that manchin might support as the party hopes the gut punch to biden's agenda is not its death nell. joining me now pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" eugene robinson and former dnc director, good to see you both. what is manchin's bait and switch here mean for the biden presidency and for the country? >> well, first of all, this is not the first time senator m

it's west virginia we're talking about. it's a state that donald trump won in 2020, and you heard bernie sanders unequivocally say that senator manchin is doing a disservice to his constituents, the west virginians. but there is a recent nbe research poll, can it shows, guess what, senator manchin has a 60% approval rating in west virginia, so the question is how much of this is political? >> well, let me tell you what i'm surprised about, as i talk with people in this country. they don't know what's in the bill. and many of them might be supporting him based on personality, based on past relationships. but if he goes point by point and asks the mothers of his district whether or not they support the child tax credit, do a poll on that. do a poll on housing. do a poll on climate change. each one of those issues so that the american people can see exactly what he's saying. right now, he talks in generalities, and people don't know what's in the bill, and they don't know what he's cutting. let's force that issue and get him to

west virginia is third. for every dollar they pay to the federal government in taxes, they get back $2.15 in benefits. california is way down the list at 20. but west virginia is benefitting immensely from this, and they would benefit from the build back better bill much more than almost any other state. >> the divisions now just hitting deeper. which saw the white house take a different tact. instead of attacking joe manchin, they keep saying that he is still connected to the president. are they trying to woo him in a different way than they have before? >> i think everybody is taking a step back. yesterday, jen psaki said it was terrible, that he really was an about face, he was retreating from everything. manchin said there was nothing more to do. today he said it's the staff. both sides are trying to give the other side a little room to breathe. this bill a lot of people think is dead. i don't think it's dead, not yet. i expect to see a last-minute compromise, probably in january, maybe even february, wh

joe biden won 30% of the vote in west virginia. this bill itself was polling at 25% support. 98% of people in west virginia said they're feeling the impact of inflation. this only helps joe manchin in lots of ways. when democrats try to criticize him from the far left it continues to bolster his support in west virginia. >> dana: manchin has been accused of being dupe list us to. telling the white house one thing and public statements something else. is that your experience with him? >> no, dana, it is not. even when we tried to negotiate the tax relief in 2017 he was clear as to where he was. he actually said if he had gone up to 25% he could have come along but our position was what are the democrats you are bringing? if there is nobody else why negligent against yourself with manchin. he has been clear. he felt the bill was not good for america and not the right time and he even supported the tax increases in the bill. what he said is i can't support the massive new spending. so i think democrats have a challenge because if they

joe manchin represent west virginia. 29% of west virginia voters supported joe biden. 60% supported donalding through a net massive piece of legislation with this majority is just not feasi the question is on voting rights, whether there is some change in there. i tried to get through the specifics of what he's for. >> i don't see a lot of budging for joe manchin or senator sinema on changing the filibuster even for voting rights. i think one of the lessons here, and this is been true for both parties, there's a tendency to overreach. you think you have a bigger mandate than you do, you act accordingly, and then you pay a price and i think we've seen a cycle of both parties repeating that mistake over the last decade or so. >> bret: how do they sell this coming out of this loss? how is it sold? >> i think they've got to go back to what we've been talking about, focusing on the core popular elements of the bill, repackaging, and putting it out there, talking about that. again, they lost months of controlling the narrative by allowing the conversation to be over in number, over a price tag,

i'm from west virginia. we can beat the living crap out of people and think they will be submissive, period. >> just like that one man's vote details the bill. if only everyone's vote counted that as much of senator mansion especially in the face of relentless attacks on voting rights that make a mockery of one person, one vote. but one man's refusal again illustrates the point. even the active protecting your access to the polls to vote in whatever way you choose seems to come down to just one man. the same man, the one who gets paid leave paid for by taxpayers as a united states senator but doesn't think it should be coming to you in the same way. one man's vote. you know, we spend days watching to see how one, if not a select few will vote from supreme court opinions to senate votes to a vice president's decision not to help overturn an election we watch with baited breath to see how one person's decision will impact our lives, impact our freedoms, impact our democracy. you know, our decoloration, of inde

he represents the people of west virginia, 75% of the people of west virginia vote conservative or feel a conservative leaning, he did what those people wanted which is his job as a senator for that state. carley: for the past few months for joe manchin and kyrsten sinema have been awful, you think of the harassing videos, everybody has been harassing senator joe manchin wherever he has gone and that isn't letting up. take a listen to what congresswoman ilhan omar had to say about senator manchin yesterday. watch this. >> we all knew that senator manchin couldn't be trusted. you know, the excuses that he just made i think are complete [bleep]. it is really disheartening to hear him say that he has been trying to get there for the people of west virginia. because that's a complete lie. carley: when it comes down to it, joe manchin was really clear yesterday. he said the reason he is voting no is because he rea liesed that democrats were sort of disingenuous with how they were doing the matt had. it wasn't that they were cutting things out. it was they were adding these essentially fake s

so sahil, senator manchin just did an interview on a west virginia radio show.have to say? >> reporter: chris, there is no question that this is a devastating blow to the centerpiece of president biden's agenda, but whether it's a fatal blow remains to be see and just in the last hour or so, senator manchin has given an interview to a local west virginia radio station where he reiterated his opposition to the build back better act, concerns about inflation, concerns about debt. and this gets to the core of it. he said in his words here that the build back better act, as passed by the house, is still the same $6 trillion bill that senator bernie sanders wanted just with new time elements. in other words, he is zeroing in on the fact that these expiring provisions, which are set to lapse over one or two or three years as a way to lower the sticker price, that is the core of his beef with this bill and that will be very difficult to fix. in these remarks, in what joe manchin told fox news yesterday, democrats saw an opening, a narrow opening, but still an opening t

here in west virginia, child care for one child private pay costs more than a year's tuition at west inia university. it is ridiculously expensive and just one more obstacle for people to join the workforce. one example. >> the senators hearing some disappointment, not just if his colleagues in washington, but from his home state. we heard coal miners union encouraging him to pass build back better for the climate provisions in there. do you see him moving on this from your perspective as you communicate, you and others, communicate the needs to the senator? he's not dumb. he's been in politics a long time. he knows to listen to his constituents. >> i think maybe that's the part i'm most disappointed in. you know, one of the biggest struggles has been able to really get senator manchin to hear the people who are benefitting from this, you know from the child tax credit. it is just very difficult task and i have yet to be able to do that. we have gotten as far as the staff, but we never had face to facetime w time with the senato >> how about inflation? inflation hurts the poor the mos

i would make the argument that west virginia -- listen, here's what he can say now to his people in west can say i took this deal, this build back better bill, which was so liberal -- i am just envisioning what he might say, and i brought to it a place where it benefits west virginia. i think that's where he will end up. i do think at this point he wants a slimmed down deal. what does it look like? does he take a couple different priorities and scale them back? does he take a couple different priorities and shrink them and make the kind of duration of them longer? that remains to be scene. but biden kind of indicated that he wants to get in a room with machlk skpin cut a deal. now i think it is obviously more complicated than that. i think the left is going to go absolutely crazy over this. i think it is going to eat up the next four, eight, maybe even ten weeks on capitol hill. but i do think -- maybe i am an optimist, katie. you have known me a long time. i have been a pessimist. i changed toward the end of 2021. i am turning into an optimist. i think it is in his interest to get somet

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democrat of west virginia, saying he is a no on build back better. the reaction from his democratic colleagues has been swift and strong. have a listen to senator bernie sanders, what he had to say in reaction. >> i hope that we will bring a strong bill to the floor of the senate, as soon as we can. and let mr. manchin explain to the people of west virginia why he doesn't have the guts to stand up to powerful special interests. >> you want a vote on it no matter what, even if -- >> absolutely. absolutely. the american people have got to understand what is at stake. we have been dealing with mr. manchin for month after month after month. but if he doesn't have the courage to do the right thing for the working families of west virginia and america, let him vote no in front of the whole world. >> and so let me bring back into the conversation nbc's julie tsirkin. you were mentioning senator sanders there before we played all of that sound from senator manchin and senator sanders and there you have senator sanders saying, you know what, senator manchin s

— back to west virginia and sell what he'sjust done?to be clear, you are exactly right when you _ he'sjust done? to be clear, you are exactly right when you say - he'sjust done? to be clear, you are exactly right when you say his - he'sjust done? to be clear, you are exactly right when you say his state| exactly right when you say his state particularly benefits from these programmes. there is a piece here that folks on the ground in west virginia, really all across the country, aren't exactly connecting what this president has done to their everyday lives. sure, you see child tax credit, you see those monthly credits coming in. the reality is, though, they've been coming in, the people have had relief. it's not until that end that it becomes real again, that without it, where are we? that's a big piece of the chicken in the egg. people are worried if we will see that debt. that's why we saw goldman sachs change its ratings of what will happen now. we are in uncharted territory, in a pandemic, in a pandemic that is worsening, so that's

making it harm every west virginia. go to the jobs, cost of gasoline, cost of groceries all the utilities are hitting every aspect of their live. reporter: the bill aims to expand the safety net and bolster climate action. democrats needed support of all members under the budget reconciliation process. ended up no amount of wooing even from the president. that the national debt can in the handle legislation up to 4 1/2 trillion dollars determined by the congressional budget office. in his statement, owe said this of the democratic colleagues they continue to camouflage the real cost of the intent on this bill. reaction from the left is immediate. >> i mean, we all knew that senator manchin couldn't be trusted. you know. the excuses that he is just made. i think are complete bull [bleep] >> we cannot allow one lone senator from west virginia to obstruct the president's agenda, to obstruct the people's agenda. reporter: senator bernie sanders wants to hold a vote on the bill even without manchin's support. >> i hope we br

he said he is listening to his voters in west virginia. >> of course. the so-called tolerant left is intolerant of any dissent whatsoever from their far left agenda. bernie sanders says joe manchin is showing new courage. are you kidding me? no courage is going along with the bill when you know it's a sham. what many of joe manchin's democratic colleagues are doing. he is saying no to socialism and destroying jobs. he is saying no to inflation. you know what he is saying yes to? federalism. his voters in west virginia. capitalism, sanity, basic fiscal responsibility. joe manchin stared down the far left of his base and said you are out of control. we can't pay for this. it is not build back better. it is a green new deal that will crush jobs in my state. that's who i answer to. good on him. thank goodness for him. he is the only thing standing behind a socialist avalanche and he stood tall. they will try to badger him but the fact that they can't learn that that doesn't work with joe manchin. i probably don't agree with joe manchin on a lot of things bu

today on west virginia radio, joe manchin made clear what he wants to say. if you wanted this bill to pass, elect more liberals. which is what he's said before. i mean, it's fascinating, i think -- i feel like this is a lot like the mccain issue in 2017 when he voted against -- the late senator john mccain when he voted against obama repeal and sunk it. and the trump white house just went after him, went after mcconnell, there was bitterness. but at that point, they were able to pivot to tax cuts, which is something that republicans agreed on. democrats have nothing they all agree on. so they don't have that pivot. they really need to find some way to get manchin on board for something. >> i was going to ask about that. then also this floor vote that chuck schumer is going to hold regardless. i mean, that seems kind of, you know -- i don't know what the word is to say, tough against manchin, to force him to go on the floor and say no. it's hard to do that to somebody of your own party. >> well, listen, i mean, the thing is, first they're going to have a cauc

guess what, i'm from west virginia.wing of the party dictates their policy and lucky for us, joe manchin stood up to it. >> a potential terrorist from saudi arabia was just apprehended at the southern border. >> this just plays into the argument that president biden's critics have lea

she insulted the entire state of west virginia.eturns to discuss in a moment. ♪♪ actress and singer midler apologizing to the people of west virginia, you're welcome. accidentally telling them what she really thinks of them and all comes down to the states democrat senator joe manchin in support for joe biden's latest multitrillion dollar spending drag than initially tweeted what joe manchin who represents the populations smaller than brooklyn has done to the rest of america who wants to move forward, not backward is horrible. he sold us out. he wants us all to be just like his state west virginia, poor, illiterate and strong out. what a jerk. an hour later she tried to take it all back and saying she's just angry. wise holy what full of distasteful people who hate america? hate flyover country and dirty peasants who populated, the party panel is back. alexandra wilkes, brad polumbo. she's had a history of tweeting horrible things people she doesn't like, she should stay off twitter when she's drunk and angry. >> i think so, too. i

he only owes something to the people of west virginia. he voted on their behalf. that's why we're here today. carley: if you think about how much harassment he's received as well as kyrsten sinema because of this, you mention the squad, so let's listen to cori bush, here is what she had to say after manchin said he would be a no on build back better. watch this. >> so first of all, it is not a huge surprise. we have been -- let me be clear. there are six of us who had been saying this all along, representative alexandria ocasio-cortez, representative pressly, representative tlaib, representative omar and myself, we have been saying this for weeks that this would happen and we took the hit. we were told we were anti-our caucus, we were anti-democracy, we were anti-this and that. actually, what we were and what we still are is pro the people because the people have to be first. the people have to win. carley: the new york post has an op-ed praising senator manchin for finally saying this is not going to pass because he's going to vote no on it. you need all 50 senat

west virginia, look, it is not fault of people in west virginia. and a lot of knowledge based industries moved to places with big metropolitan areas with highly educated people. that's hard to reverse. the way to help a place like west virginia which has been stranded by these things is to give them money, give people resources to make sure they have adequate health care, make sure they can raise their children. west virginia depends a lot, again, what we're supposed to do, if people are in trouble, we're supposed to help them. west virginia is a big recipient of federal aid, but should be getting even more. by standing against this, joe manchin, it is against the interests of disadvantaged americans everywhere, but there's an unusual concentration of people who need this bill in his state. it is hard to imagine a state that is more standing to benefit from things he is opposing in his own state. >> listen to fresh comments from mitch mcconnell. >> our goal in the minority is to try to protect the 2017 tax bill. it was the right thing to do for the