yes, we are definitely keeping an eye on the system as it swings in to western europe. we had a cold front associated with a low pressure system you can see a curlicue associated with the mid british islesas it came onshore it came with a little powerful slap in the process. let me show you what it looked like on the ground level as this strong atlantic storm causing high waves and heavy snow in western europe tuesday and more specifically in portugal which experienced the brunt of it. several schools had to be closed down because of the snowstorm in the north. and in the process, also having to close down some roads and cutting off rural communities. but you can also see here a little bit more on the fun side the lighter side as kids were able to enjoy the winter weather with that snow in place, and i think we're going to sees winter weather continue on as we go through the next couple of days. you can see here we have a bunch of low pressure systems here. almost like a connect the dots type of setup, because there's so many of them. we will see these systems slowly pr

one week after the terror attacks that left 17 people people dead in paris western europe is going on the offensive. more than two dozen people have been arrested in france, belgium, germany, and ireland. belgium police alone conducted more than a dozen raids after a firefight last night left two suspects dead. charlie d'agata is in brussels. >> reporter: the charred walls, shattered glass and bloodied hallway, aftermath of a fierce gun battle that left two suspects dead and a country on edge. police were on high alert today despite more than a dozen arrests, police are still searching for three heavily armed suspects with links to isis militants in syria. some jewish schools were closed. government buildings were heavily guarded. at the scene of thursday night's firefight, police said they found kalashnikov assault rifles explosives police uniforms and a large amount of cash. belgian authorities stressed the terror arrests had no connection to the attacks in paris last week that killed 17. belgium is the highest per-capita exporter of foreign fighters in europe, estimated to be at le

from the middle east having fought there having been trained there and now live in western europe. we have maybe 150. that threat is closer. it's more mixed in. but i think with the attacks over the last week in paris, like the attacks in ottawa, canada australia last year have proved is that the west is united in one thing, and that is a decade or so after 9/11, there's still no really coherent or successful strategy yet for dealing with islamic terror whether you're in the united states or europe. we have tried massive military invasions and that hasn't worked very well. we tried trillion dollar nation building. and that has been frustrating. we are currently engaged in much less expensive, assassination and campaigns in yemen and elsewhere, that hasn't been all that satisfying so far as we saw in paris. and we also pulled out of some places and created voids for terrorist groups to move in. while there are united to some extent in purpose, they also share this problem, which is they have not been able to solve this puzzle and it's clear that the problem continues to grow. >> the

and you have some unknown number of folks who never left western europe but who have become radicalized. so it's potentially a very large number. >> rose: mike, it seems like the terror threat has never been so difficult. yet it was four years ago that osama bin laden was killed. what happened? >> charlie, in the fight against al qaeda we've had since 9/11, al qaeda has had a great victory, and we've had a great victory. our great victory has been the decimation, degradation, near- defeat of the al qaeda leadership in pakistan, the people that brought us 9/11. their great victory has been the spread of their ideology across a very wide geographic area-- europe, africa, middle east, south asia. on september 10, 2001, al qaeda was on one place in the planet-- afghanistan. today, they're in 30 to 40 countries.un >> rose: which one should we fear the most? >> i think there are two groups to fear. one is al qaeda in yemen, which maintains the most sophisticated capability to attack us here inre the homeland. the ability to bring an airliner down, for example. and we also have to fear isis, w

these weapons could not be coming from western europe but from eastern europe to western europe. in eastern europe it is much easier to obtain the weapons even in places like poland and hungry hungary hungary. >> you were talking about how easy it is to travel to syria and yemen to train and come back with the same passport. talk to us about the role turkey plays. >> it is almost 90% of the time they have to go through turkey in order to get specifically to syria from the north. i think turkey has been lax in its security measures. it has allowed thousands of individuals to cross the borders. they mentioned earlier about the suspected wife of one of the paris attackers that she might have crossed turkey into syria. it didn't seem that turkish authorities really had a great zooming on her in order for them to figure out where did she end up after she left turkish borders. same for thousands of fighters who crossed by arriving in the south or going -- it is really important to figure out where the fighters are arriving to turkey from. are they going into spain or germany before they

and this is the hot issue in western europe today. the question is are these countries going to change their cultural standards, their political systems. this san issue that's been brewing for over 20 years, really since the end of the cold war. and since immigration became heavier and heavier into europe from north africa and the middle east, citizens in these countries are struggling with these issues of assimilation, and a cultural adaptation. the question is, can these people become real meaningful citizens and participate. in the united states it's possible. it seems less possible in europe. there seems to be more friction, more difficulty, maybe it's the nature of the institutions, maybe it's the culture, maybe it's the scale, maybe it's the speed, and these are all issues that political leaders and security people in these countries have to work with and understand. >> general, the intelligence on a situation like this and we've discussed this with roger cressey prior to having you on is certainly more difficult when it involve

now, let's just think a little harder about what is happening in western europe right now. european officials have actually been warning for months about the unprecedented threat posed by returning fighters from syria. more than 3,000 european citizens have traveled to syria to fight in recent years. most have come from france with up to 412 foreign fighters. but belgium has the highest rate per person with up to 296 foreign fighters. and that is around 27 jihadist in every million of the belgian population. now, our europe reporter duncan crawford, is with me. he's been based in brussels for several years. and he's been investigating belgian's problem with jihadists. so give us the context here. we've got these arrests and we've got overnight the shooting of two suspects by belgian police. give us the context in belgian. >> in belgian, you have got this issue, it seems, where there is this high proportion of citizens compared to other european countries, traveling to syria to fight where individuals is are often joining up with radical islamist groups, such as islamic stat

. >>> large numbers of muslims have dom live in western europe. france, germany, britain, netherlands - have they come to terms with rapid changes. have muslims come to terms with what it means to live in very different societies. it's "inside story". >>> hello, i'm ray suarez. for a variety of reasons people have pulled up stakes in south asia, north africa, the middle east and headed to western europe to live and work. and for a variety of reasons countries welcome them in. now, decades on, previouslihomo genius countries like norway and ploourallist ones like france are wrestling with what it means to incorporate people from different societies if large numbers, and many muslim immigrant families, long after transplanting in the west are struggling to cope with life in a place where religion and daily customs play a smaller role, where freedom of religions include the freedom to practice and mock religious faith. the murd erts at an editorial office by men who shouted they were avenging the prophet forces mutual suspicion to the front. >> repor

can have free travel once they get into western europe. my committee has launched an investigation into these foreign fighters to determine how can we more properly identify them both over there and stop them from getting -- >> one final question jay johnson, the secretary of homeland security will be with me in the next hour. his agency the department of homeland security has only funded through february. will they get the money they need to protect the american people? >> this afternoon we had a good meeting. our goal is to keep the department open and we've shut down the executive action. >> on immigration reform. >> precisely. >> you're not going to fund the department of home landz secureland security unless the president backs away on immigration? >> our leadership just got out of the meeting and had discussions about how to proceed forward and we want to stop this executive action and i think the responsible individuals like myself have no desire to shut down this department. it's too important to the national security interest of t

the number is between 2,500 and 5,000 people so western europe has a bigger problem but we also share that problem with western europe because those individuals can get on an aircraft and come to the united states without a visa, so we have our own problem and we have to worry about western europeans coming here. >> do we think the danger now is greater than it was? >> i think you have to think about the danger from al qaeda as an organization, right? and the danger from them is less than it was on 9/11. now al qaeda can't conduct a 9/11 style attack today multiple simultaneous attacks that kill thousands. they don't have that capability. they do have the capability to conduct small attacks. but the lone individuals, right the lone individuals who might go out and do something that number is much larger than it ever has been before. >> what do we need to be doing we are not doing? prime minister cameron wants to give intelligence agencies greater leeway to hack into social media and encrypted media we know the media companies in the united states very much are against that, do w

some of western europe's biggest cities could have the year's first snowfall in the forecast. knows all about it? our pedram javaheri who joins us from the international weather center with the details on that. how much snow are we talking about? >> it's going to be a dusting for some. could be blizzard-like for, northwest of england, northern ireland, get significant snowfall. this is the dead of winter. when you look at the climatological setup, january to the middle of february in the northern hemisphere, temperatures at the lowest. the storm at their most potent. not unusual, we've seen significant storms in recent days across our planet. light snow across much of eastern and central europe. across western europe snow heavy enough to where we have 100 flights canceled out of germany, the most of any cancelations, western germany. notice a significant drop in the jet stream allowing moisture and the storm system to track well to the south. to northwestern europe scattered snow showers. what i like to call popcorn shower because of the scattered nature. dublin get something

western europe remains on high alert following the twin terror attacks in france and the foiled terror plot in belgium. in athens today, authorities arrested four men reportedly involved in the thwarted attack on belgian police. in yemen, where the terror attacks against france were hatched, the president's chief of staff was kidnapped by gunmen. and protests continued today around the world over cartoon depictions of the prophet mohammed. this was the scene in niger in west africa, a former french colony and majority muslim country where demonstrators set fire to churches and looted shops. at least eight people have been killed there during protests the past two days. thousands also took part in protests today in pakistan, where some demonstrators burned the french, israeli and american flags and held signs denouncing the depictions as blasphemy. >> ( translated ): look at the double standards of the west, where saying certain things about the holocaust or against the queen of england is a crime. but when blasphemy is committed against the prophet muhammad, they say it is freedom of s

western europe and what goes on in the middle east is very important. >> a question a lot of viewers have is if you knew these guys went to syria, and fought for isis, and came back why are they just walking around and the same could be asked about people in this country, because i have heard of individuals, there was that jihadi from florida who fought with el nusra, came back to florida, went back to syria and died there. why not arrest them when they come back? >> a couple issues. do you have a basis to arrest them if you can prove in court they went to fight, that may be sufficient to give you basis to arrest. at a minimum you want to surveil them. there are resource constraints. if there are literally hundreds of people going back to western europe the ability of the police to literally sit on everybody becomes problematic from the standpoint of having the man power. that's why some of the electronic surveillance issues that have been controversial really become critical because if you can monitor whether people are communicating with others in the middle east or other plotters

i viewed it as similar to the threat posed by hitler in the early and mid 1930s that if western europe and the united states had stepped up against him early on, he could have been stopped, and the horrors of the second world war might have been avoided. saddam hussein had used weapons of mass destruction before in the 1980s against the kurds. we've been discussing. and against iranian citizens. he had weapons. he was a murderous tyrant i'm glad he's gone. but it turns out he didn't have them when we were told he had them. and in '02, '03, he was no threat at all to us. so do politics affect the formation of public policy? absolutely. and it certainly had some impact on me. but i honestly thought we had to disarm him. >> that leads into my question. considering the freedom of information act that recently has disclosessed from '04-'11 that they had found some caches of weapons of mass destruction can, like 3500 -- 2500 rockets or missiles, i don't know the details on it, how true is all that? >> it's true if you can believe "the new york times." >> okay. >> they just published a big st

demand is relatively stable in places like the united states or western europe or wherever there is high demand for narc on a such as heroin. i think another thing lots of people have talked about in the quote, unquote area of globalization where you have increased trade across the globe and not just traded goods, but also opening up the financial systems across the globe and target police when you have a real tension there contradiction on the one level saying you will increase the amount of free trade of legal good, but at the same time come and be able to police the trade in illegal goods. the war on drugs has in terms of saying that it's going to reduce the amount of drugs globally being produced are the rates of addiction and the united states has not occurred. so i think a lot of those criticisms that the war on drugs is not producing results is correct. one of the interesting things that i found when i was writing the book is that the time in the 70s, officials and american can about these different types of eradication policies and source control these.that while they couldn't to

they want to create more tension in society, creating backlash and violence in western europe. that's a goal. the challenge now is for the different communities of secular society, for government to put an end to that and keep a lid on. >> what can the frex securities do to keep from playing into the hands of extremists who would like things to go that way? >> we heard a number of things, first off there'll be a bigger effort on the part of the muslim community to figure out how to deal with alienated youth. there's a big problem. the head of euro poll said 3,000 to 5,000 people throughout europe made the journey to syria and identical. that's a huge number. in terms of population, not big. the french government is taking action. one of the things they are going to do is strengthen security which is woefully inadequate for the threats faced. >> a big concern. "america tonight"s sheila macvicar, reporting from paris. in a moment - ferguson and other flashpoints between communities and those sworn to protect them. a familiar voice from the past speaks again, against the law. >> y

guest: the threat is different in western europe than it is in the united states. influenced by the same ideology. europe in many ways is dealing with a much more significant problem as long as a lot of their muslim communities continue to be poorly integrated, they will continue to deal with this threat. we are seeing it now spill over into belgium. germany has a problem with this as well. there are capable counterterrorism forces. in the last 10 years, we have tongue tongue-in-cheek made fun of, you know france's view on warfare and conflict. france has an incredible counter terrorism force. we have had good behind-the-scenes relationships with them. we will continue having that robust relationship with germany and the united kingdom and france and italy and all of those nations is critical to combatting the threat. host: one viewer says the u.s. needs to get better at assimilation rather than demonizing certain groups of people. that's peg. we have bill on the line from boyier town, pennsylvania, republican caller for rick nelson. hi, bill caller: hi. hi mr. nel

raids across western europe is exposing a network of extremism. authorities arrested 17 people in connection with the terror raid in belgium. they released most of them later. three remain in custody. a counterterrorism source says it two militants killed and the one who was arrested has links to isis and other terror cells. cnn senior international correspondent ivan watson is in brussels. in belgium and with the authorities, do they have a sense, still, that the threat is imminent and they are standing by waiting to see if any of these cells remain active? >> reporter: they are certainly on alert and we witnessed that here in brussels seeing soldiers members of the armed forces here deploying in brussels guarding outside the jewish museum which is a few blocks from where i am standing right now. reports that troops are being deployed in antwerp as well. that's a sign of how seriously the authorities are taking the threat. as one law enforcement official told me he doesn't believe soldiers and armed soldiers have been deployed on the streets in s

and if -- obviously any failures on the part of law enforcement in western europe it has bearing on the united states and our ability to gather information. >> and i've been told over the last 24 hours that our relationship with french intelligence is quite good. there is a question of whether or not domestic versus foreign intelligence are identifying each other sufficiently. that was a problem in connection with 9/11. every time something like this happens we learn something. also every time something happen happens like this the terrorist learn something. the other piece, anderson and you're focused entirely as well you should be and you're doing a great job of what's going on today in paris but the larger question is who are these people? why are they doing this? why are they joining these extremist groups? why are they being attracted? that's a much deeper question than we have to ask ourselves. we won't be able to kill them all. is it education in? the community, the moderate muslim community speaking up against these violent jihadists. it's a combination of -- we have to d

>> actually, there is better momentum in western europe. certainly, southern europe is stabilizing.ngth in spain. italy was good in the most recent quarter. the u.k. is strong. dramatic europe has been good. -- germanic europe has been good. we see some strength in western europe. positive numbers, albeit not robust. >> you have been restructuring your business for the past 10 years. what is next on the agenda? are you looking to buy anything? >> we announced the intention to acquire general electric appliances in september of this past year. that acquisition is under review with the regulators and we expect a decision and a positive decision and closure by mid-2015. >> that will keep you busy. is that going to take much of your time for 2015? >> we have lots on the cards. lots of good momentum around the world, including europe america, asia, north america. lots of innovation and investment in new products. we are quite excited. we think we are well-positioned for a good 2015. >> what is your feeling for the u.s. market? >> the u.s. housing market? >> yes. >> it is getting better g

. >>> high alert in western europe. authorities try to make sense of a complex web of terror links. >>> the path to extremism. what could have led this paris terror suspect to commit such heinous acts? >>> also ahead this hour despite bad weather and last-minute schedule changes, pope francis brings a sunny attitude to manila in the philippines. >>> also china's beloved pandas under threat. the deadly virus that's left researchers with more questions than answers. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. you're watching cnn live coverage. i'm natalie allen. a wave of arrests in anti-terror operations across europe is exposing a potential network of dangerous extremism. authorities say they arrested 17 people in connection with thursday's anti-terror raid in belgium. authorities released most but three renine custody. a counterterrorism source says two people killed and one arrested had links to isis and other terror yellscells in other european countries. >>> if france 12 people were arrested af

political leaders around western europe are said to becoming here. they made announcements publicly in a show of support in face of the terror threat. >> that's right. in the same way perhaps as an individual, you need closure in order to process, grief perhaps as a nation as well. france needs that. with a big demonstration. and you're talking about the highest levels of european leadership. almost like a state funeral. angela merck l, the prime minister of spain, the prime minister of the u.k. to converge for several reasons. one, it's the right thing to do. two, in all those countries as well, there are fears of home grown gee ha di dss, and might cause problems as well. >> dan, the question now of the fourth suspect. the woman believed to be a woman jihadist, the girlfriend of the terrorist killed at the grocery store, a, you know, there had been this question of whether or not she actually had been in the supermarket. it's not clear if that is actually the case. it doesn't seem likely given the difficulty for her to be able to escape. i don't se

france now has western europe's largest muslim minority, roughly 5 million people.a tenth of the population, a largely law abiding community, still trying to find full acceptance. one measure of how france feels about muslims. a 2013 poll which found that 7 of 10 respondents believed that islam is intolerant. and 8 out of 10 say muslims want to impose their way of life on oth others. with that kind of resistance on a more muslim france, the government has taken a variety of steps to reinforce secularism. among them, a ban on face coverings, such as those fra decisional for many devout muslim women. in july of 2013, hundreds of muslims in a superb 30 kilometers southwest of paris rioted for three days after police tried to check the identity of a muslim woman wearing a full face covering in public. islam and violence in the headlines again. muslim leaders quickly condemned the paris attack, even before police could answer some of the most basic questions about what happened. but once again, for french muslims, a barbaric and subversive version of their faith will be

intelligence community, in terms of whether this was just a start of a wave of attacks across western europets way to the u.s. in the future as well. is president has been very forceful in seeing that we're going to stand -- what specific steps he's going to protect it, dana. >> what he's waiting for in dallas, not new york or paris. >> he has not directly connected to islamic terror. what i specifically said was that i think he's been forceful in saying we're standing with france, and then i said that he's been much more tentative in terms of explaining what he's doing to protect the homeland. in terms of islamic terror he hasn't directly tied it to that. this is not happening in a vacuum, this is after the attacks in canada, australia and that coffee shop. i mean our allies are being hit, thankfully, we have not been recently obviously the boston marathon bombing, ft. hood, there's been terror attacks in recent years, the fact of the matter is that the president has not tied it directly to islamic terror, and again, not just with france, but this whole string of events, it's falling out be

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. >>> large numbers of muslims have dom live in western europe. france, germany, britain, netherlands - have they come to terms with rapid changes. have muslims come to terms with what it means to live in very different societies. it's "inside story". >>> hello, i'm ray suarez.

. >> that is the kind of conversation going around much of western europe now as place de la republique. thank you lawrence. >>> as expected thousands of people are expected to march throughout the streets of paris saturday and indeed on sunday. this is the scene outside that supermarket. as we just said that is where some hostages died. there's a heavy police presence, as forensic teams continue to investigate there. well, as we've been mentioning the kouachi brothers claimed connection to al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. omar one of the brothers claim to have been funded by aqa. how credible are those claims? >> well, it came from his own mouth when he spoke to a french media saying he was financed by al qaeda in the arabian peninsula and financed by anwar al alki. we have confirmation from one of the yemeni officials who believed the brother was in yemen in 2011, and an audiomessage from one of the senior members of the group he didn't claim directly the attack but he did praise what he called the battle of paris response of insults to afronts to islam and its prophet. >> aqa omar,

steps on pressure on isis allies in western europe are cracking down on suspected terror cells.30 people nabbed in france belgium and germany. at least 14 suspects arrested in france linked to the three gunmen in last week's terror rampage. bring in senior intelligence and national correspondent for the daily beast. >> tlampgs for having me. >> what do you make of the fast-moving development overnight? >> an argumenturgency to round these people up as quickly as possible and not traditionally what happens in the cases where you watch them see how they communicate, see if you can trace them back to the higher ups controlling them. there's a fear a lot of these gruchs may be acting on their ohoh own volition and you have to shut them down. a sense of urgency to wrap these guys up as quickly as possible is what you're seeing. >> and terror attacks imminent in belgium? >> absolutely. intercepted phone conversations. when they arrested them they had police uniforms in their possession suggesting they might try to attack or infiltrate police stations. you'll see in coming days any oth

plots disrupted in western europe. what is your sense of that? i many i think that of course this has been going on in lots of places around the world for a long time. and you look at boko haram, which has been maybe the most leiththal example of this and they've killed more people last year in nigeria than ebola did. now, timing of the paris attacks was based on them setting it up and then they're always sort of follow-ones both ways. i don't have great incitesight into the paris attacks. >> you make a good point of pointing out what's going on in boko haram. we've committed to shining a light on horrific darkness there and as you are doing at "the new york times." i want to talk about a situation in saudi arabia and let me just update folks who may not know. you have written quite an article about it. saudi arabian blogger and a double standard in the kingdom, sentenced to ten years in prison and 1,000 lashes doled out 50 lashes at a time every friday for some five months for promoting a liberal discussion on religion. his second flogging was p

are standing guard in belgium and across europe after those raids snagged dozens of suspects in western europe and one of the killers and their french newspaper massacres has been buried. amy kellogg is following the latest developments live now from paris. >> reporter: hi, eric. from what i can tell, people across europe for the most part are going about their lives as usual. but when you stop to ask them, they will tell you that this security situation, of course, is never far from the front of their mind or the surface of their thoughts. people don't know whether these 30 some arrests that have taken place in europe across europe over the last few days has put a significant dent in the jihaddist threat or whether this represents the tip of the iceberg and frankly, what it will take ultimately to melt the iceberg. the focus has shifted in the last couple of days to belgium which per capita, has probably the highest number of jihaddists who have gone off to fight in iraq and syria. antiterrorist police round up people in the last couple days who had military grade weapons on them and a signif

western europe was very upset with some of the surveillance tactics that they thought the united states was using in order to deal with terrorism in order to track potential terrorists. there has been announcements made that reforms, some sort of rolling back of this aggressive surveillance. any second thoughts about rolling back the aggressive surveillance that the united states was doing over say the first eight ten years after 9/11? >> i think what we looked at was changing the way in which we conduct some of our electronic surveillance programs so that we are focusing on -- focusing that effort on the people we are most concerned about. we're not going to do anything that -- you would term a rollback that would endanger the american people. we have talked to people in the intelligence community. we have talked to people in our congress. i think we have come up with a way in which we can enhance the privacy concerns that people have expressed while at the same time making sure that we keep the american people safe. >> i got to ask you one last question on another topic. david pa tray

. >> france is the largest muslim population in western europe. should investigators have concern this the suspects are aided by smathisers? >> i would think not, in this kind of case. it is high profile. the area is flooded with french uniforms. no telling how many plain-clothed officers and surveillance agents are in the vicinity. i'm optimistic that the break in the case will come through a citizen report of seeing something, bringing attention to the french police. >> which is what led to the capture of the final suspect in the marathon bombings. fred thank you for coming on we appreciate it. >> my pleasure david. thank you for having me. >> we'll keep everyone posted on developments in france. >>> an attack by boko haram in northern nigeria killed at least 100 people happening in the finishing community of bagga on the banks of lake chad. they entered the area killing people setting the town on fire and moving on to other villages. >> the attack on wednesday was like boko haram trying to finish up what they couldn't finish over the weekend wh

a country described as having more jihadist per capita than any other nation in western europe. belgium authorities arrested five terror suspects. i want to bring in phil black from brussels. phil what's the latest there? >> reporter: greek sportsauthorities arrested two men. of the two men, the belgian investigators say they want one of them. want to bring him back and extradite him to belgium because they believe he was involved in the terror plot they disrupted last thursday while conducting raids across the country. a 33-year-old algerian man. investigators are not saying what role they suspect he played in the plot. you're right. five other people here in belgium have been charged. one of them was a man who survived a shootout with police in the town of verviers. we learned more about the survivor who was arrested. he's a 25-year-old belgian man of moroccan descent. his client says he has nothing to do with the terror plot and he was only in that property at the time because he was doing a favor for his mother. he was dropping off a pair of shoes to one of the men in that p

if now at least one of these terrorists wreaking this horror in western europe was train in yemen, thats trained in yemen? >> i was saying it raises questions about the fact that if he was trained in yemen, whether or not the strategy there on the ground is working because it has been held up as a real pillar of the strategy. >> i'm sorry. just trying to find out when he might have been in yemen. ed henry, thank you very much. >>> are we being too p.c. about this stuff and is it killing us? pat buchanan thinks so. he's next. >>> all right. the guys behind the terrorist attack in paris this week were radical radicals. peter says not calling them that is just as dangerous. >> agree with your former attorney general, if you're going to err, you better err on the side of security when you see something like this. this is dramatic and while it's barbaric and although it's an atrocity, it's a war operation. they went in a and wiped out this entity muslims detest and radical muslims detest. they got the attention of the secretary of state. they got the attention of the president of the united

france has the largest community in western europe and is hoping that there will not be backlash against the muslim community at a time when it is used of not standing up in a strong and clear voice against radical islam. at a time when the far right is feeding on the fears of radical islam. the leader of the far right was the clear winner in the last european elections. she stands a good chance of making it to the second round. this is a time of unity as the president has said. he knows that the climate is very tense and he is hoping for a day of mourning when flags will be flying at half mast. there will be a strong show of solidarity by all kinds of french. french of all origins and all religious beliefs. >> in what is a secular country. >> a country that has been really struggling with lots of tensions because of unemployment and a lot of unhappiness against immigrants. this was the message tonight even though we still don't know who the perpetrators were and there is no official claim of responsibility. >> we are down at the palace where francois hollande made this speech earlier. t

why alienation and discrimination at home drives muslims in western europe towards violent jihad. >>basically tells young western recruits you can be part of an enormous historical project, and people in a thousand years will be talking about those brave young

there are no-fly lists, whereas in western europe, you can travel by train, you can travel by car.ly no borders, and that makes it far easier for people to get around. >> it does. but if we've got that many people floating around, we're going to have trouble too. >> part of terrorism, it is a weapon of the weak. part of the objective of it is to get an overreaction so that you actually further polarize the sides. i think that's some of what's at -- some of what these terrorists want to get that overreaction to get a war between islam and the west and get people using that kind of rhetoric, because that feeds into the message the terrorists are promoting. >> if their effort is to divide, what's so important about that mass rally yesterday was how massive it was. when you have three million people marching all over france and joined by people from all over the world, that's an extraordinarily important signal. >> the point anderson is making on a broader level, terrorism is a tactic that depends on the response of the onlookers. >> absolutely. >> if you are not terrorized, it didn't

the state department program basically -- if you're from western europe, britain france germany, which are having problems right now with islamic terrorism and jihad you can still enter the u.s. without a visa and stay here for up to 90 days. >> how is that possible? explain how that works or how we allow that to happen? >> this has been going on for about 11 years, this visa waiver program, where the state department says look, the easier it is for folks to come into the united states without a visa, the more people will come they'll spend money, it's good for the economy. that is the thinking behind it. and, look, if we get rid of the program it will cause maybe some diplomatic hard feelings but the end of the day western europe now, as we saw in paris is at the forefront of this global jihad and these radical islamists who want to kill us and thousands of europeans have again to meddle east to join isis, and if they come back to britain, france germany, all bets are off. major if the terrorists in france two weeks ago -- they trained in yemen by the way. imagine if they just bypass