oregon? it just sounds so crazy. and, of course, all of the western accounts about that, you know, dismiss it. but when i started to interview the japanese and i listened to what their logic was, well, they had quite a clever idea which was they knew that in september the forests in oregon and northern california are usually tinder dry. is they expected the weather, the dryness to be a force multiplier for these incendiary bombs that they dropped. i mean, they anticipated setting on fire a good part of northern california and southern oregon. now, what happened there, lucky for us, was it was the most unseasonably rainy september in a hundred years. and so when they dropped the incendiaries, well, they went off, but they can't have the effect that the japanese intended. so we tended to just kind of dismiss that as, oh, that was a crazy japanese plan, but the truth of the matter was they just got unlucky, and we got tremendously lucky. >> one other question. pbs had a show on these subs a year or two ago. that's the first time i've ever heard of them.