so she went to western union. >> they said, i don't think we do this. >> reporter: western union stoppedthey got her money back again. >> these people are professional fraud sters. it's what they do every day. >> reporter: kim gardner tells us her company launched a program in january to block the faud against customers. >> if we feel for a moment that the transaction is part of a fraud scheme, we will place that transaction on hold immediately. >> reporter: among its knewest efforts money gram compiles data on senders and and severs. in this case she had never used money gram before and suddenly two payments in a week. what's more the second payment went to an address in africa. >> we are more alerted to money leaving the country. >> western union did not discuss its security measures but said it has ramped up warnings to customers about scams. >> i had a bed for it. >> reporter: she said she realized the scope of the fraud when she heard our story about two families that lost money to the puppy scam. >> money gram says it returns about $1 million every month to those who would be victi

the website is western union remission.com. you're going to have to help make your case here by providing the date of your loss as well as documentation. so give yourself ample time to complete the application before the deadline tomorrow at midnight. we put a link to the settlement application on our website, nbcbayarea.com/responds. that's also where you can tip us off to our next story or call us, the number is 888-996-tips. >> coming up here on "today in the bay," a look at what we can expect weatherwise today. >> it's going to be much cooler today as we look outside in san jose, we start out with clear skies and let's go to sunnyvale where temperatures today will stay in the mid-60s. time to break the jackets back out. we'll talk about what's ahead as our temperatures go down and then way back up. it's coming up next. >> we're holding steady for 580 through dublin, it's 680 through dublin, that's the problem. half of the freeway is blocked. we'll explain that coming up. >> plus, the tweet that took down one of the hottest

the seller said they could get the dog soon if they paid by western union. >> and i thought that odd but thought it was excited. >> reporter: they wired $1,300 and waited for the dogs and received another e-mail. >> they are too small and they require special crating. >> reporter: demanded $1,250 to ship the dog. so they paid it. >> waiting for the dogs to be delivered that next day and no dog. >> reporter: just another demand for more money. >> tens of thousands of consumers in the united states have lost money to these types of pet scams. >> reporter: scams are on the rise growing to 37,000 reports to the ftc over five years. estimating only 10% of victims reported the crime. >> they will continue to string along their victims. first you pay for the dog and then asked for shipping. and next the dog needs special insurance. >> reporter: never buy a dog from pictures and video. and never wire money to a purported seller. can't help wondering about the real bosco. >> making plans on what to do with the dog. >> it was heart breaking. >> and we went online to find the same picture of th

the seller said they could get the dog soon if they paid by western union. >> and i thought that oddut thought it was excited. >> reporter: they wired $1,300 and waited for the dogs and received another e-mail. >> they are too small and they require special crating. >> reporter: demanded $1,250 to ship the dog. so they paid it. >> waiting for the dogs to be delivered that next day and no dog. >> reporter: just another demand for more money. >> tens of thousands of consumers in the united states have lost money to these types of pet scams. >> reporter: scams are on the rise growing to 37,000 reports to the ftc over five years. estimating only 10% of victims reported the crime. >> they will continue to string along their victims. first you pay for the dog and then asked for shipping. and next the dog needs special insurance. >> reporter: never buy a dog from pictures and video. and never wire money to a purported seller. can't help wondering about the real bosco. >> making plans on what to do with the dog. >> it was heart breaking. >> and we went online to find the same picture of the

. >> usted fue víctima de estafa mandado dinero por medio de western unión, al regresar le digo cual medianoche; el gobierno federal anunció a wester unión de no haber protegido adecuadamente a las personas de fraude y que no sancionó debidamente a sus involucrados, la compañía aceptó su error; y es por eso que llegó a un acuerdo, dicho acuerdo creó un fondo de $586,000,000 para compensar a las personas que fueron estafadas por micro transacciones de dineros. el departamento de justicia envió medio millón de cartas a potenciales víctimas; pero aunque usted no recibió una carta por correo a un puede aplicar a este reembolso. . >> le recuerdo que tiene hasta mañana a medianoche para aplicar y posiblemente obtener una compensación. si tiene un caso telemundo 48 responde nos prevé llamar al... (información en pantalla). >> >> la cadena de tiendas walmart le da la oportunidad a sus empleados de estudiar una licenciatura y solo tienen que pagar un dólar al día. la empresa se encargará de los gastos de libros y matrículas. esta opción se ofrecerá a todos los empleados que hayan cumplido 90

the website is western union remission.com. you're going to have to help make your case here by providing the date of your loss as well as documentation. so give yourself ample time to complete the application before the deadline tomorrow at midnight. we put a link to the settlement application on our website, nbcbayarea.com/responds. that's also where you can tip us off to our next story or call us, 888-996-tips. >> thank you very much, chris. >> 6:25, a mountain lion walks right up to a man's fence and his dogs you see there surrounding that animal, not very happy about it. this happened near san bernardino. a little close to be filming? that's what we thought in the newsroom. >> that's when i started thinking, this thing jumped a fence to get in here and i realized at that moment, maybe i shouldn't be out here. >> everybody wants to capture those moments then realize maybe not so much. back up slowly. the mountain lion ended up leaving a few minutes after this video. >> you see the back on the dog there. >> they were ready.

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she went to western union. >> i don't think we do this. >> these people are professional fraudsters.er: global security chief tells us her company launched her program in january to block the rampant fraud against customers. we will place it on hold immediately. >> reporter: they compile data. she had never used money gram before and suddenly she wired two payments in one week. that second payment went to an address in cameroon, africa. >> we are a little more alerted to money leaving the country. >> reporter: they have ramped up warnings. >> torberg says she realized the scope when she saw our story about two bay area families that lost money to the puppy scam. they weren't as lucky as she was to get money back. >> i'm so grateful. >> reporter: refunds an average of $30 million every month to consumers who would be victims of fraud. i'm michael finney, 7 on your side. >> some customers are complaining their money went to the wrong place or even disappeared. >> they often just assume it comes with the same protections you expect from your bank and that's not the case. >> tonight at 1

she went to western union. >> i don't think we do this. >> these people are professional fraudsters.tells us her company launched her program in january to block the rampant fraud against customers. we will place it on hold immediately. >> reporter: they compile data. she had never used money gram before and suddenly she wired two payments in one week. that second payment went to an address in cameroon, africa. >> we are a little more alerted to money leaving the country. >> reporter: they have ramped up warnings. >> torberg says she realized the scope when she saw our story about two bay area families that lost money to the puppy scam. they weren't as lucky as she was to get money back. >> i'm so grateful. >> reporter: refunds an average of $30 million every month to consumers who would be victims of fraud. i'm michael finney, 7 on your side. >> some customers are complaining their money went to the wrong place or even disappeared. >> they often just assume it comes with the same protections you expect from your bank and that's not the case. >> tonight at 11:007 on your side's micha

they accused western union of turning a blind eye to scammers who reportedly using their service for fraud. some accused of wrongdoing settled. that settlement resulted in a pot of $586 million to compensate people who fell for scams. they mailed half a million letters to potential fraud victims, but even if you didn't get a form in the mail, you can still apply on line through tomorrow night. the website is westernunionremissi westernunionremission.com. you'll have to apply for the date of your loss as well as documentation. so give yourselfle time to complete the application before the deadline tomorrow at midnight. we put a link to the settlement application on our website, nbcbayarea.com/responds. that's also where you can tip us off to our next story or you can call us. the number the 1-888-96-tips. >>> we're in the cool phase and we're going to hang out here for a couple of days. >> can we stay here? >> i'd like to stay here, but you know what, i think there is other plans in store for us. let's get a look outside right now, and what we are seeing here on the satellite radar sh

second, if you want to pay for that wall, just cash western union remittance money that illegals are sending to their home countries. host: jennifer shutt, look at the bigger issue of border wall funding. the president campaign on this and wants congress to pass it and where are we in terms of appropriations? guest: he is not going to have a lot of money. couple that passed a months ago had $1.6 billion, i believe. he definitely has not gotten the full either authorizing or appropriate and amounts of money he has wanted. that is one of the issues where he begrudgingly signed the omnibus, the money to build the wall. that is another issue we will be watching for throughout the appropriations process this year, a homeland appropriations bill. it has not been released in a house or senate yet, so we still do not know how much the republicans are proposing to fund for that walk. one of the issues will come to a head at the end of september , thethe fiscal year ends continuing resolution most likely will not include new funds for anything, including the border wall. so trump is going to h

western union, good-bye.ll cost tiny fractions what it once cost to get money all over the world. it could change the credit card industry. but you don't seem to believe so. how come? >> well, i don't think that cost of doing a transaction is that exciting. what is it that exists people? i think it has something to do with our political side. the really critical feature of bitcoin is that it doesn't depend on a government. and in fact there are claims government can't control it. it is like we're establishing a new community of cosmopolitans who are just smarter than the government. part of the story it is so hard to understand. only really smart people get it. and then part of it is, that it is independent and free spirit. it is creating a new, yeah, i would say community. trish: so that is the reason why people like it. and that is where the excitement -- i understand all that. and there have been various types, i haven't invested in this stuff at all, i have been kind of excited about it too in terms of it

. >>> we're seeing customers like western union, money gram, they're leaning in and using our tools toayments problem. and this payments problem is measured truly in the trillions of dollars so while we're on mile marker one of a 26-mile marathon, we're definitely past the starting line >> that was ripple's ceo brad garlinghouse on power lunch earlier today when i asked him about the future of ripple and how xrp, the cryptocurrency could be used. according to bk, the biggest thing investors are missing about rip areal. bk is at the plaza to break it down >> hey, melissa, thanks for that brad had some interesting things to say and i thought it was really important to break down what he's talking about and what the opportunity at least that brad sees, and ultimately could be the bull case for ripple so let's break it down talking about the size of the payment markets. quoting the mckenzie it's about $155 trillion is the size of the market so your total addressable market is massive right now if you take a look at what it costs to move $155 trillion, it's about $31 billion. roughly around

western union tomorrow and paid the £400, is that 0k? £400, is that 0k? suspicion because they were wanted to do what? were wanted to do what? second time did you think was going on? on? £400 was still really cheap in the end. the end. you think they wanted but the price of more. the price of more. ian, who booked two rooms through booking. com, and one was cancelled. hello, ian. what is the reason you had one room cancelled? had one room cancelled? claimed his credit card was not valid. was it? the e—mail saying you have two update in 48 hours. update in 48 hours. e—mail saying that the credit card details are invalid. details are invalid. what has happened then? happened then? afterwards, he complained to booking. complained to booking. because we have made those transactions since. transactions since. found our other hotel room which appears to be ok. appears to be ok. suspicious and when we get there, it might not be. might not be. how much is that costing you? costing you? it's costing us a bit more than it was. more than it was. quite lucky to find

. >> the receipt shows that ruby was sending a money order to one of his strippers from a western union11:17 a.m. >> we know that at 11:20, three minutes later, a block away, jack ruby killed lee harvey oswald. the evidence showed that he was down there anywhere from 5 to 15 seconds. 5 to 15 seconds. if this is a hired assassin who is supposed to have some advanced information, he is the world's best gunman. >> what type of man is he? >> jack is a very emotional-type person. and as i was saying awhile ago, he's the type man that probably would give you the shirt off his back at one moment and then turn around and do something as nutty as this in the next. >> i never used the term "angry." that's not in my vocabulary. >> he was known for a quick temper. and later, as it turned out, he was hooked on two kinds of speed, preludin and benzadrine, at the time of the shooting. >> he had been here at the police station during the past two days talking with newsmen and distributing his card, also making friends. >> jack ruby was a police and media groupie. ruby thought he was our friend. >> so i

not surprisingly the utility that we are driving with xrp we are seeing customers like western union,ogram, they are leaning in and using our tools to solve a payments problem this payments problem is measured truly in the trillions of dollars. so -- [ no audio ] -- trading activity. again, i think that's because it's early over time i think you will see a more and more rational market and behaviors that reflect that. >> how many concludes or platforms of these digital assets will survive in ten years? how would they be distinguished from one another what will your distinguishing trait be. >> i'm going to go back to the utility point and solve -- how is it being used i think say order of magnitude 99% of the different digital assets out thereoday will exist in five years -- they won't exist. they will -- they have been launched -- look, the sec is getting involved, as they should, because there have been frauds committed i think we have been an advocate that the government should get involved and protect investors and companies. but there are examples where there is real utility. the

western force, he called this asianism. he referred to it as japan's devine mission. he felt it was written in the stars for japan to lead the asian union against the western power. in the process reconfigure world order. now, the tenant of asianism ultimately set japan on a collision course with the united states. a few years before the war broke out, japan announced, as official policy what it called the new order in east asia. this was that idea of ordering east asia around japan in the center. japan leading this united wall. once the war broke out in 1941, in america, most people called the pacific war in japan it was often referred to as the war for asian liberation. this was that second component of the ideology where the asian union with that oppose the western forces. hopefully, if you are in japan, liberate them. this new ordert, was every bit as oppressive as any old order had been. in theory it hoped to liberate east asian nations from western imperialism but in practiced japan moved to the nation under the guide of liberation and simply replaced any western that had been there. with rather brutal japanese rule. so, when the

second, if you want to pay for that wall, just cash western union remittance money that illegals are sending to their home countries. host: jennifer shutt, look at the bigger issue of border wall funding. the president campaign on this and wants congress to pass it and where are we in terms of appropriations? guest: he is not going to have a lot of money. couple that passed a months ago had $1.6 billion, i believe. he definitely has not gotten the full either authorizing or appropriate and amounts of money he has wanted. that is one of the issues where he begrudgingly signed the omnibus, the money to build the wall. that is another issue we will be watching for throughout the appropriations process this year, a homeland appropriations bill. it has not been released in a house or senate yet, so we still do not know how much the republicans are proposing to fund for that walk. one of the issues will come to a head at the end of september , thethe fiscal year ends continuing resolution most likely will not include new funds for anything, including the border wall. so trump is going to h

it is the major conduit for from western africa through libya, to the european union. that is a major factor in trying to assure stability. if you talked to neighboring countries -- algeria, tunisia, egypt -- for them, stability in libya is an absolute essential. robert parsons on the ongoing conflict in france today, trying to solve the political crisis in libya. next, italy's new interim prime minister is building his cabinet, but the team put together by carlo cottarelli is almost certain to be rejected by the big populist parties in italy, the five star movement and the far right leg. their own bid for power collapsed two days ago, setting italy up for new elections in the fall. get-go, theym the have been strange bedfellows. while they both lead populist parties, o one generally appeals to the right, the other to the left. now that the league and the five star movement's bid to govern italy together has gone up in smoke, they may keep up their fragile coalition, or they could soon be at each other's throats or new elections are looming. but first, there is sergio

grassroots i mean fully grown from within or do you count on support from let's say the european union and other western countries in terms of strengthening and maybelline and perhaps financing some of those changes well look i think all countries have some sort of technical assistance that can always be helpful but this is at its core a democrat a grassroots effort by the armenian people for the armenian people so ultimately whatever you see coming out of the nuchal question young administration is going to be based on armenian values armenian tendencies and armenian people power now you said before that you don't really need to invent the wheel and we all understand what's good for societies in political and economic terms but i think you know the experience of my country of russia shows that. the difficulty lies in not so much defining what needs to be done but understanding how it could be done how you can bring those new institutions and tailor them to your. culture in a way to allow both to work can sink rather than sabotaging one another or subverting one another i wonder if there is an understan

this was that second component of the ideology where the asian union would then oppose the western forces. hopefully if you were in japan -- as it turned out this new order was every bit impressive any old order has been. in theory, asianism had hoped to liberate east asian nations from western imperialism. when tokyo trial came around, asianism played a central role. the point being that if okawa stayed on trial, if he not been removed from the mental hospital and broken down to see my grandfather, he would have received the harshest possible punishment. the best comparison we can make is to the nazi alfred rosenberg who after the trials were hanged. what i liked about this structure point of view as an author it reduced the immensity of world war ii down to just two individual lives. there lies personal history and influential. now, i traveled the united states meeting veterans learning about combat psychiatry. i learned everything i could about asia. in the process of course, i was always trying to learn about this mystery at the core of the book. what i can tell you about the mystery,

czech republic but very important there were no representatives attending from western countries belonging to the european union so that surely shows a growing rift within the european bloc now the americans have been putting a lot of pressure on countries to sign up and approve this move although there is a lot of resistance internationally to it we have seen the u.s. ambassador to the united nations nikki haley resorting to duty tactics and writing a threatening letter. to consider the vote i want you to know the president and the u.s. take this vote personally he will be watching this vote carefully and has requested our report back on those who voted against us thank you for your consideration. as part of the international reaction the turkish president added one has said that this move clearly shows that the united states has chosen to be part of the problem and not part of the solution and that the united states has lost its mediating role in the peace process now this comes as we continue to receive rising casualty figures the latest figures we have a more than fifty people who have been killed in clashe

walked the battlefields and places of mass murder in modern times in eastern and western europe and the former soviet union, where millions and millions of people have been brutally slaughtered in the last 100 years. , during the modern era. so we are in no way immune to the most horrific outcomes related to technology and the all the wonders that we enjoy and that make our life better. we must remain human. in the er we have an island of humanity where we depend on technology, but human beings always come that's my mission first. for this work, to help people genieat happens when the of mass destruction comes out of the bottle and when we allow eign withouto r human control. it will end us and we must not let that happen. now we are going to see a photograph that is another tie-in from world war i and has to do with with race. this is a skull with a gas mask. this space is the only remaining vestige from 100 years ago of any black combat unit in an underground city. 370th fromthe chicago, the black devils. and they had a tradition of being the only african-american unit for decades. they had all black off

union evil empire and the u.s. placing nuclear weapons in western europe focused on the soviet union, there was a human right's issuet resolved. without it, much of the end of the cold war story would not have been possible. kelly: that's a very good point. i'm glad you brought it up in 1983 because of humanitarian effort that the president then ronald reagan made and, of course, the success of that and seeing end to cold war between russia and the united states, i want to play something real quickly from the former governor of new mexico, bill richardson who was speaking to neil cavuto earlier today and about sense of hope and optimism, if you will, let's listen. >> i'm hopeful. it's the best i've seen in a long time but i worry because i know the north koreans. kelly: i know the north koreans. that is still a sticking point and cautionary red flag if you will, for many americans that are watching the president do this diplomatic dance with north korea. what do you think he has to be aware of going into this? >> he does have to be cautious about the north koreans because of, you know, more than 25 years of failed n

czech republic but very important there were no representatives attending from western countries belonging to the european union so that surely shows a growing rift within the european bloc now the americans have been putting a lot of pressure on countries to sign up and approve this move although there is a lot of resistance internationally to it we have seen the u.s. ambassador to the united nations nikki halley resorting to duty tactics and writing a threatening letter do you consider the vote i want you to know the president and the u.s. take this vote personally he will be watching this vote carefully and has requested our report back on those who voted against us thank you for your consideration as part of the international reaction the turkish president added one has said that this move clearly shows that the united states has chosen to be part of the problem and not part of the solution and that the united states has lost its mediating role in the peace process now this comes as we continue to receive rising casualty figures the latest figures we have a more than fifty people who have been killed in cla

czech republic but very important there were no representatives attending from western countries belonging to the european union so that surely shows a growing rift within the european bloc now the americans have been putting a lot of pressure on countries to sign up and approve this move although there is a lot of resistance internationally to it we have seen the u.s. ambassador to the united nations and.

taking place in bulgaria, bulgaria holding the presidency of the european union at the moment, it was supposed to be about the western balkans, the former yugoslav countries, some of them have applied already to join the eu. this is a region that is of interest to the european union. it is surrounded by european union member states. donald fisk yesterday talking about the facts that he wants these countries to see a european perspective for the future. what with the alternative be? a russian perspective, looking to moscow. this is a very strategic region for the eu. at this summit talking about connectivity with the western balkans, instead of using the words "enlargement" or "adhesion." >> thank you. seoul has vowed to mediate between the u.s. and north korea after pyongyang threatens to cancel a summit between kim jong-un and donald trump which is scheduled for june 12. south korea announced on wednesday it might not attend -- north korea announced on wednesday it might not attend if washington demands they abandon their nuclear arsenal. saying he hasn't received any inclination on the talks being in jeopardy. isra

says the situation very differently in one thousand nine hundred ninety the soviet union was given assurances by western countries that nato would not be enlarged beyond their reunited germany but those promises were quickly forgotten and between then and now the north atlantic treaty organization continued expanding eastward adding thirteen. more members as it carried out major military interventions in the balkans of his stand libya and beyond no wonder then that u.s. plans to deliver patriot missile shield to pull and have been interpreted in moscow as part of a plot to surround russia let's now bring in our guests joining us from london olivier geta managing director of global strat a geopolitical risk and security consultancy firm in moscow dimitri babich a political analyst at russia profile magazine and in washington d.c. lawrence korb former u.s. as says that secretary of defense gentlemen welcome to the program mr korb let me start with you so we don't assume now that the thinking in washington is that the fight against i sell and to national terrorism is not a priority anymore and rather that

continued up through the collapse of the soviet union and came to its biggest height of union polarity of u.s. led western hegemony during the one nine hundred ninety s. and what they're talking about is russia and china returning to positions of great power status in the world are blocking their control of the world whereas russia and china and i'm not going to stand for it k.k. from a realist perspective and of course from a relativist position of weakness little to the us prefer the rules bound system in one thousand nine hundred five established by the un. whereas the us regards the principle un prince of the security council principles un charter principles of sovereignty and non interference to be antiquated policies ok i think you are paraphrasing mr john bolton. there you know peter one of the things one of the biggest problems and we'll talk about russia's relationship with the west in the next part of the program but i think one of the biggest problems is that you have policymakers and media in the west we can never put themselves in rush's shoes have to look at how they see the world you know n

community of stability and certainty, of a rules—based system, especially in the western balkans, where the vacuum that the european union weakness has been filled by russia. in the current instability, there is still an awareness that, with all its faults and problems, the european union is holding on. but if it is like this at 27, how will it work at 37, 47? the question is what president macron is calling the coalition of the willing, which is going to be very, very important in the months to come, if international security keeps deteriorating. so, europe could move, especially for security reasons, towards a smaller coalition. so, a two speed europe. this is a very likely possibility. a bit of a reality check on the eu, all is not cheery in the eu. you have hungary, poland, moving to the far right. really challenging the liberal centre that is at the heart of the eu. these are serious, serious problems. serious challenges. but at the same time, they are pushing forward an attempt to find solutions, that will regroup more countries. that will be a delay for us in future years. thank you to all of you. we will see what