most people do not know that westirginia and kentucky were ready to go to war over these families. tavis: the governor's got involved. that is how serious it was. >> you cannot arbitrarily come over here and try to haunt our people. we just came out of one more and now we are going to have a whole another one. guns are going off. there is a cliche. there is a notion of, is this a real story? tavis: when i went back and read this thing, it was mind-boggling to consider that two states about to go to war over to families. that is a serious thing. >> that is right. we are taught that we will go to war over one person. you see what is going on. in principle, that is who we are. tavis: what is your sense of the role that we are playing in the world? whether it is the world's policeman, picking and choosing our battles, you frame it how you want to frame it. give me your sense of our foreign policy. >> obviously, a really big question. when the world comes in our house, comes through our tv, it is hard to ignore. meaning, when we see something happening somewhere where we think, that has